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Tod
Location: Seattle Joined: Tue Sep 18, 2018 Posts: 682
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This guy, a delivery driver, shows up at a scam delivery request for pizza, and they pull a gun on him to rob him (of what???????), BUT HE SHOOTS FIRST!! He survives! He kills his attempted murderer!! That's when he lost his head and forgot to stay alert. While he was in the fog of war, he didn't think to watch the second perp, she sneaked up behind him, picked up the gun of her dead crime partner, and shoots the survivor dead. What a way to lose your life.... "As Ungersma stood in 16th Street near Hart Street yelling for neighbors to call 911, Billups picked up Vanmeter's gun, walked up behind Ungersma and killed him." https://www.yahoo.com/news/woman-convic ... 38855.html
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surevaliance
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Location: AZ Joined: Fri Aug 17, 2018 Posts: 6799
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First thing you’d do after neutralizing BG is to secure his weapon.
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Sun Dec 05, 2021 12:37 am |
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Beardsli
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Location: South Snohomish County Joined: Sat Jan 16, 2016 Posts: 861
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surevaliance wrote: First thing you’d do after neutralizing BG is to secure his weapon. Unfortunately that got a guy who stopped a mass shooter killed. He was holding the guy's rifle when the cops showed up. I think what we need to learn from this is situational awareness.
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Sun Dec 05, 2021 12:40 am |
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surevaliance
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Location: AZ Joined: Fri Aug 17, 2018 Posts: 6799
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Beardsli wrote: surevaliance wrote: First thing you’d do after neutralizing BG is to secure his weapon. Unfortunately that got a guy who stopped a mass shooter killed. He was holding the guy's rifle when the cops showed up. I think what we need to learn from this is situational awareness. Yeah. I’m not afraid of criminals as much as I’m afraid of trigger-happy cops.
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Sun Dec 05, 2021 12:50 am |
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NWGunner
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Location: South Seattle Joined: Thu May 2, 2013 Posts: 12475
Real Name: Steve
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One lesson being cover access to the weapon...
And don’t ever assume an attacker is alone...
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Sun Dec 05, 2021 1:03 am |
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surevaliance
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Location: AZ Joined: Fri Aug 17, 2018 Posts: 6799
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NWGunner wrote: One lesson being cover access to the weapon... And don’t ever assume an attacker is alone... That’s why we have standard-capacity magazines.
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Sun Dec 05, 2021 1:15 am |
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SporkBoy
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Location: Deckerville Joined: Wed Jan 13, 2016 Posts: 2946
Real Name: Rob
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30 years martial arts training every session included multiple attackers because we are not alone in this world and evil never sleeps.
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Sun Dec 05, 2021 8:18 am |
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bigbearbear
Location: WA Joined: Mon Aug 31, 2020 Posts: 298
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Say you survive a shooting and the attacker is down, what would you do? Scan for additional threats, retreat to a defensible position, call the cops and swap in a fresh magazine for your gun?
It can be scary and confusing.
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Sun Dec 05, 2021 6:59 pm |
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Normanator
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Location: Shelton, WA Joined: Sat Dec 17, 2011 Posts: 1140
Real Name: Norm
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bigbearbear wrote: Say you survive a shooting and the attacker is down, what would you do? Scan for additional threats, retreat to a defensible position, call the cops and swap in a fresh magazine for your gun?
It can be scary and confusing. This is exactly what you should do with the addition of securing/disabling your assailants weapon on the way out if possible. An attack will definitely be scary and confusing, thats why you need a plan burned into your head prior... muscle memory will take over. Once the adrenaline wears off and the shakes start you want to be in a secure position, safe, not looking for one or fumbling with a weapon (yours or assailants) when the police show up.
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Mon Dec 06, 2021 6:14 am |
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bearhunter99
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Location: Wenatchee Joined: Sat Aug 4, 2012 Posts: 353
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Although securing the BG's gun or disabling it is what we SHOULD do, in this day and age it is tough to do anything to disturb the crime scene. In today's world a GG with a gun is as bad or worse than a BG with a gun in the minds of these snowflakes.
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Mon Dec 06, 2021 8:31 am |
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Pablo
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Location: Everson, WA Joined: Sun Jan 6, 2013 Posts: 28191
Real Name: Ace Winky
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That's not exactly how Evil Genius went down.
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Mon Dec 06, 2021 9:25 am |
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Tod
Location: Seattle Joined: Tue Sep 18, 2018 Posts: 682
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bearhunter99 wrote: Although securing the BG's gun or disabling it is what we SHOULD do, in this day and age it is tough to do anything to disturb the crime scene. In today's world a GG with a gun is as bad or worse than a BG with a gun in the minds of these snowflakes. The insanity over Kyle Rittenhouse is proof of that.
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Mon Dec 06, 2021 9:58 pm |
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golddigger14s
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Location: Faxon, OK Joined: Sat Mar 19, 2011 Posts: 17822
Real Name: Chuck
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WTF....17? "LAFAYETTE, Ind. — Seventeen-year-old Jaelynn Billups stole the life of Domino's Pizza deliveryman Joshua Ungersma when she shot him from behind late Aug. 31, 2020."
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Tue Dec 07, 2021 8:29 am |
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Gman
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Location: Unincorporated Rural Pierce County Joined: Mon Feb 24, 2020 Posts: 1804
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Showing no contrition in the courtroom, she should have received the maximum sentence and not leniency.
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Sun Dec 12, 2021 10:39 am |
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Guntrader
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Location: Mukilteoish Joined: Sat Mar 26, 2011 Posts: 11595
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Remember this pizza delivery driver in the U District had a naked guy whacked out on acid jumping on the hood and roof of his car, got down and opened his door. Driver shot and killed him with an AR. Driver was promptly fired for carrying a firearm at work and the dead psycho's mom said it was murder, he was such a good boy (no charges were ever filed). Anyone who has seen zombie movies would think it a good shoot.
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