You also don't have to light a wood burming stove at 5am to make breakfast as a rite of passage anymore.

But I don't see anyone complaining.

Old Growth enters the chat...

Me

I drove an automatic for 4 years. A part of me died inside. I got a manual again and I was more in tune with the road and a better driver again.

I always want an automatic for when my brain isn't working, for every other day, I want a manual. I drove a manual for 15 years in stop and go traffic. When the road opened up, I too could be free.

I'll take my current 4 cylinder beater over a V8 corvette or Mustang neutered by an automatic. I don't give a crap what the track times say, or what the fuel economy says, I prefer to live.

The new last Gen corvette Tanner Foust raced the computer automatic car vs stick....after 3 laps through Detroit closed streets the stick was faster. He felt he had more control of the car.

Mans Trans vs Womans Trans....

demand trans rights.

Well one has GEAR oil in it the other a RED Fluid...

Well played!

Exactly. I demand equal representation for Standard Transmission in the marketplace.

An American V8 with a manual Transmission and rear wheel drive. I'll take that over slush box any day.

Agreed! I still manual shift my truck regularly, especially in city driving. Nice to have an auto for traffic but I miss the control of a clutch and being able to sit right in the torque band until ready to accelerate.

When I bought my 1997 F-250 diesel back in..... (Fuck, I don't remember, but put almost 400K miles on it.), it came with an automatic. It blew my mind. I could feel the slippage as I drive it, that I never felt in all of my previous pick-ups. Even now the slippage after all these years still bothers me.

Then I think of the big semi's with auto-trannies, with supposedly the same slippages... Uh No.

But just like the earlier comments about better mileage, I have to admit I get better mileage over the manual. But that slippage is telling that my mileage should really suck.

Hard Facts matter.

No. No they are not. While it's true that double clutch systems are faster, it is most definitely not true about common torque converter automatics. They're not more fuel efficient either, or more reliable.

There are plenty of vehicles that are better with a manual transmission besides sports cars too. Many people prefer them in trucks, especially diesels due to reliability but also gas motors too. Not everyone lives and drives in rush hour traffic every day.

From a technical standpoint, manual transmissions are the most efficient. There are a ton of a benifits to a auto, but opposite and equal negative points.

One of my best friends has a car with a CVT transmission for his wife. So a true CVT keeps a constant optimal rpm range, they kick up a little higher for acceleration. Somewhere a handful of years back people complained they felt slow, so they programed faked shifts to make it better. These fake shifts wear on contact material so my friend fixed his car to not do it.

If i understand right, they act like a crank head Bridgeport, basically they move a drive wheel down a cone.

https://www.motortrend.com/news/why-the ... he-manual/

https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2015 ... irst-test/


https://www.autoblog.com/2019/01/29/201 ... transmiss/

and on and on and on.

The truth is having 8-10 gears is better than 6-7. Coupled with mechanical and electronic smarts the transmission can shift into the most optimal band for both fuel efficiency and performance for longer parts of the time and more reliably than a human driver.

The reliability aspect comes from the monkey behind the wheel. Sure "you" might be perfect with your shifts, but if you are looking at a used car, my questions with an automatic transmission is "has it been serviced on scheduled?"

The approach with a manual is "Let me go have a mechanic check out the clutch, because I don't trust you."