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Mar-a-lago Raid: discuss.
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jukk0u
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The DoJ mounts an attack on a former President and political opponent, using questionable legal under-pinnings as justification, and because the electorate is crisis-fatigued there is seemingly little hullaballoo commensurate with the import of the event? Here's a thread to keep current on this Biden-gate... this purge of dissent, no? "A former director of national intelligence said Aug. 12 that it is “virtually impossible” to prosecute people for mishandling classified documents, and asserted that former President Donald Trump has the “ultimately declassification authority” in terms of such documents." Remember when Comey covered Hillary's ass over classified docs with a bunch of malarky? "As people talk about Espionage Act and classified documents and all of that, the standard was set in 2016. Remember the Department of Justice and the FBI took the official position that Hillary Clinton, who was in possession of classified documents … that [being] in possession of that, that wasn’t enough, and that being grossly negligent and being careless, Jim Comey told us, that’s not enough under the Espionage Act. You have to know you’re violating the law,” Ratcliffe said." https://www.zerohedge.com/political/for ... mpaign=853
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WaJim
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Tue Aug 16, 2022 7:01 am |
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Sinus211
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After the way Trump was treated while he was in office would you put it past him to keep some dirt on his political and personal adversaries? I hope he was able to amass enough to keep them all in check. After all, he hasn’t been Kennedy’d or Epstein’d yet, so that’s got to be saying something.
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Tue Aug 16, 2022 7:41 am |
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AR15L
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How do we know that stuff that was "found" was not planted?
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Tue Aug 16, 2022 8:22 am |
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dj_fatstyles
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AR15L wrote: How do we know that stuff that was "found" was not planted? Cause the F.B.I is an honest and reputable agency and they would never lie.
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Tue Aug 16, 2022 9:07 am |
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mcyclonegt
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What if everything is legit? What if he did illegally take stuff he wasn't supposed to? Should be not be held responsible? Don't most of us complain about politicians not being held accountable?
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Tue Aug 16, 2022 9:24 am |
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WaJim
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mcyclonegt wrote: What if everything is legit? What if he did illegally take stuff he wasn't supposed to? Should be not be held responsible? Don't most of us complain about politicians not being held accountable? Its not just the accountable thing, its the Lib Hypocrisy. Both Clinton (Bill) and Barry (O) did the same shit. Never settled or investigated. No FBI Raids.... WTF Right? Its all about the next election cycle. Throw enough shit against a wall, true or not true and some of that shit sticks.
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Tue Aug 16, 2022 9:31 am |
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Diamondback
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dj_fatstyles wrote: AR15L wrote: How do we know that stuff that was "found" was not planted? Cause the F.B.I is an honest and reputable agency and they would never lie. Yeah, you can totally tell by the Mass Seppuku outbreak at the Hoover Building.
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Eddie Dean
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dj_fatstyles wrote: AR15L wrote: How do we know that stuff that was "found" was not planted? Cause the F.B.I is an honest and reputable agency and they would never lie. Absolutely! They're a paragon of virtue.
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Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:33 am |
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MycroftHolmes
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Just a random thought, but the accusation that President Trump had classified documents pertaining to “nuclear weapons” could very well be dirt on Hillary pertaining to the Uranium One deal.
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Tue Aug 16, 2022 11:12 am |
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mcyclonegt
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MycroftHolmes wrote: Just a random thought, but the accusation that President Trump had classified documents pertaining to “nuclear weapons” could very well be dirt on Hillary pertaining to the Uranium One deal. That would make complete and total sense.
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mcyclonegt
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WaJim wrote: mcyclonegt wrote: What if everything is legit? What if he did illegally take stuff he wasn't supposed to? Should be not be held responsible? Don't most of us complain about politicians not being held accountable? Its not just the accountable thing, its the Lib Hypocrisy. Both Clinton (Bill) and Barry (O) did the same shit. Never settled or investigated. No FBI Raids.... WTF Right? Its all about the next election cycle. Throw enough shit against a wall, true or not true and some of that shit sticks. It is all totally fucked up man, every damn one of them probably commits crimes on the daily, doesn't mean he should get away with it. It's all a dirty corrupt game.
_________________ "I'm Hub McCann. I've fought in two World Wars and countless smaller ones on three continents. I led thousands of men into battle with everything from horses and swords to artillery and TANKS! I've seen the headwaters of the Nile, and tribes of natives no white man had ever seen before. I've won and lost a dozen fortunes, KILLED MANY MEN! And loved only one woman, with a passion a FLEA like you could never begin to understand. That's who I am. NOW, GO HOME, BOY!"
"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones". Albert Einstein 1947
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hadati
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I think the reason there hasn’t been much of a response is because people are waiting to see what happens with this.
If it quietly gets dropped because TPTB realize 150+ million people will go ape shit, then it’ll be much ado about nothing.
If TPTB keep blindly walking this forward and Trump is kept from running, or “gets Epsteined” there will be much, much, much more of a response.
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Gman
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mcyclonegt wrote: What if everything is legit? What if he did illegally take stuff he wasn't supposed to? Should be not be held responsible? Don't most of us complain about politicians not being held accountable? If he had records that needed to be returned, this would be a misdemeanor. Do you think Trump packed up his own office in 4 hours to move out of the Whitehouse? Was it worthy of the action taken? Have they done similar to other politicians that have also had documents in question? The affadavit for the warrant is suspect. Going through a local magistrate (that was involved with the Epstein case) rather than a district judge for the warrant is also very suspect.
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bubblewhip
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Gman wrote: mcyclonegt wrote: What if everything is legit? What if he did illegally take stuff he wasn't supposed to? Should be not be held responsible? Don't most of us complain about politicians not being held accountable? If he had records that needed to be returned, this would be a misdemeanor. Do you think Trump packed up his own office in 4 hours to move out of the Whitehouse? Was it worthy of the action taken? Have they done similar to other politicians that have also had documents in question? The affadavit for the warrant is suspect. Going through a local magistrate (that was involved with the Epstein case) rather than a district judge for the warrant is also very suspect. All presidents except Trump operated and live inside the White House and D.C instead of their personal residence. All presidents except trump also didn't operate and leave in a pandemic and a riot at the white House disputing election results till the very end. Pretty big exceptions to those two.
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