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EAOTD #4: Permit-to-Purchase - Need more CON's!
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405 WCF
Location: Deer Park WA Joined: Wed Aug 12, 2015 Posts: 229
Real Name: Joe
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Done!!!
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| Thu Feb 02, 2023 5:48 am |
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Massivedesign
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Location: Olympia, WA Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2011 Posts: 38380
Real Name: Dan
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My friend just let me know that sign-in / up's are closed as the public hearing is about to begin: https://tvw.org/video/senate-law-justic ... 2023021054
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| Thu Feb 02, 2023 7:41 am |
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Col_Temp
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Location: Lake Stevens Joined: Fri Jan 3, 2014 Posts: 6782
Real Name: Paris
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Already done but sent again. Sharing as well.
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| Thu Feb 02, 2023 9:56 am |
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mash man
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Location: Airway heights Joined: Sun Mar 20, 2011 Posts: 12198
Real Name: Michael
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Done.
_________________ANZAC wrote: That one that says "From my cold dead hands..... will require a background check" He who does not punish evil commands it to be done. --- Leonardo DaVinci When its time to go in: That place of steel and stone. I pray that you will keep me safe, so I will not walk alone. Help me to do my duty, please watch me on my rounds. Amongst those perilous places and slamming steel door sounds. God, keep my fellow Officers well and free from harm. Let them know I'll be there too, whenever there's alarm. Above all when I walk my beat, no matter where I roam. Let me go back whence I came, to family and homeAuthor unknown.
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SFCRMSA
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Location: Lacey/Olympia/JBLM Joined: Tue May 10, 2011 Posts: 3198
Real Name: Marco
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Done and spreading the word
_________________ "Dedication, perseverance, commitment and tenacity are the traits you will find in those who finish and achieve their dreams."
There are times when the situation as it occurs, dictates the course of actions that follow.
"I stand for the National Anthem, always have, always will"
On days like this, I often wonder what Gary Gordon and Randy Shughart would do...
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| Thu Feb 02, 2023 6:23 pm |
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EmbraceTheEdge
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Location: Camano Island Joined: Mon Jan 23, 2017 Posts: 378
Real Name: Lyle
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I think I missed today's deadline but I did send send it to my legislators.
_________________jukk0u wrote: Apathy is another and perhaps the biggest obstacle for the defense of our rights... Member: 2nd Amendment Foundation Gun Owners of America Firearms Policy Coalition Silent Majority Foundation NRA
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| Thu Feb 02, 2023 8:53 pm |
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Massivedesign
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Location: Olympia, WA Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2011 Posts: 38380
Real Name: Dan
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They decided not to hear the bill today. Interesting.
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| Thu Feb 02, 2023 9:28 pm |
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NWBoon
Location: Seattle Joined: Thu Apr 9, 2020 Posts: 89
Real Name: Chris
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Done on AR15.com.
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| Thu Feb 02, 2023 9:50 pm |
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Caveman Jim
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Location: In my Cave near the Cloquallum Joined: Thu Sep 26, 2013 Posts: 8530
Real Name: Jim Sr.
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Done. Added a little to the NRA statement.
As a fellow Washington resident, I ask you to please oppose House Bill 1143. I'd like to know why Washington hates gun owners and businesses that have a right to keep and bear arms? This bill and others proposed will impair Article 24 of Washington's constitution AND the 2nd Amendment. Our constitutions are the law of the land no matter what Progressive Liberals think! PUNISH CRIMINALS instead of making the peaceable citizens into criminals for noncompliance to unjust restrictions to our constitutional rights!
This bill seems to make the exercise of the constitutionally protected Second Amendment rights conditional upon applying for government permission, taking one-size-fits-all training, and paying fees. No other constitutional right currently has such a license, fee/tax, and training requirement because these barriers simply make such rights less accessible to those of limited financial means or with tight schedules. This bill will prevent low-socioeconomic communities from being able to exercise their fundamental right to keep and bear arms because of the extraordinarily high costs this bill requires to purchase a firearm. First, there is the recurring permit fee. Then, there are the course and other associated costs. But, the bill does not take into account the costs of actually taking the required course, which can cost hundreds of dollars and time off work to take the course. There is no limit on how much money this course can cost, only how much the permit fee is. The required fingerprinting also costs money. The bill also fails to take into account the travel time, gas money, range fees, and ammunition costs for required live-fire training classes. There are an inadequate number of gun ranges in Washington to accommodate hosting a course for every single purchaser, last year there were over 700,000 NCIS background checks for firearms purchases in Washington. Then, there is the taxpayer burden. Our law enforcement agencies are already understaffed and underfunded thanks to the "defund the police" movement - now they will have to hire staff to process hundreds of thousands of permits, a burden that will fall on us, the taxpayers' shoulders. HB 1143 also creates a chicken or the egg problem for first-time firearm purchasers. A permit is required to purchase a firearm, but in order to receive the permit you have to complete a training course that requires having a firearm. If you don't have a firearm already, how do you get one to complete the course that is necessary in order to get the permit to purchase it in the first place? Sure, some ranges rent firearms, but that is another financial burden that HB 1143 imposes. In addition, the ten-day waiting period on firearm purchases is arbitrary. When the federal government first created its computerized background check system more than two decades ago, three days was already considered appropriate for the technology level of the time for an “instant” check. With 2023 technology, a ten-day delay adds nothing of investigative value and serves only to inconvenience law-abiding citizens and arbitrarily delay a right. According to ATF data, the average time-to-crime from purchase of a firearm to committing a crime is 8.8 years. I oppose HB 1143 and you should too.
_________________"You are either with us...as Americans. Or, You are against us. There is no IN BETWEEN." ??? "We cannot negotiate with those who say, 'What's mine is mine, and what's yours is negotiable.'" JFK "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety” -Ben Franklin MadPick wrote: I don't think you beat your children enough. 
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jukk0u
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Location: Idaho, Land of the Free Joined: Wed May 1, 2013 Posts: 22332
Real Name: Busta Hipp
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_________________ “I really don't care, Margaret." ~JD Vance
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jackass
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Location: Burien Joined: Sun Sep 22, 2013 Posts: 6178
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done
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| Wed Feb 08, 2023 4:08 pm |
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Massivedesign
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Location: Olympia, WA Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2011 Posts: 38380
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This was heard this am... https://tvw.org/video/senate-law-justic ... 2023021138Only a couple people (paid shills) testified in support, ALL THE OTHERS were 100% against.
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| Thu Feb 09, 2023 11:30 am |
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Massivedesign
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Location: Olympia, WA Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2011 Posts: 38380
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Ended up with a Do Pass and handed off to Ways and Means.
Do pass Signed by Senators Dhingra, Chair; Trudeau, Vice Chair; Kuderer, Pedersen, Salomon, and Valdez.
Do not pass Signed by Senators Padden, Ranking Member; McCune, Torres, Wagoner, and Wilson, L.
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| Fri Feb 17, 2023 6:11 am |
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jackass
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Location: Burien Joined: Sun Sep 22, 2013 Posts: 6178
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The Bill of Rights should not require a permission slip from the government.
Done
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| Fri Feb 17, 2023 6:26 am |
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jukk0u
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Location: Idaho, Land of the Free Joined: Wed May 1, 2013 Posts: 22332
Real Name: Busta Hipp
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cckrb repprts this is in the rules committee waiting to be sent to the floor.
Call Laurie Jenkins a cunt and the rest of the rules committee.
_________________ “I really don't care, Margaret." ~JD Vance
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