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MadPick
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Location: Renton, WA Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2011 Posts: 53102
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JohnMBrowning wrote: Pablo wrote: Creek on south side of property burst the bank. Shit. Total FAIL without pics....  Dude, that's a bit harsh considering what Pablo is probably going through right now. And also: 
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| Sun Nov 14, 2021 4:39 pm |
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Pablo
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Location: Everson, WA Joined: Sun Jan 6, 2013 Posts: 28460
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JohnMBrowning wrote: Pablo wrote: Creek on south side of property burst the bank. Shit. Total FAIL without pics....  Shit man, I wasn't carrying my phone. Had shovel in hand. OK so far but below I think road in is flooded. I could see down to the corner and it was covered.........this creek has no name, seasonal. Water just pouring off the Sumas mountain and hills.......soil is saturated,
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WaJim
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| Mon Nov 15, 2021 7:52 am |
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JohnMBrowning
Location: Bothell Joined: Sat Sep 12, 2015 Posts: 5565
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Pablo wrote: JohnMBrowning wrote: Pablo wrote: Creek on south side of property burst the bank. Shit. Total FAIL without pics....  Shit man, I wasn't carrying my phone. Had shovel in hand. OK so far but below I think road in is flooded. I could see down to the corner and it was covered.........this creek has no name, seasonal. Water just pouring off the Sumas mountain and hills.......soil is saturated, Sheeeesh.... you'd think a guy that lived in Duval would be used to a little bit of flooding..... 
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Pablo
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Location: Everson, WA Joined: Sun Jan 6, 2013 Posts: 28460
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JohnMBrowning wrote: Pablo wrote: JohnMBrowning wrote: Pablo wrote: Creek on south side of property burst the bank. Shit. Total FAIL without pics....  Shit man, I wasn't carrying my phone. Had shovel in hand. OK so far but below I think road in is flooded. I could see down to the corner and it was covered.........this creek has no name, seasonal. Water just pouring off the Sumas mountain and hills.......soil is saturated, Sheeeesh.... you'd think a guy that lived in Duvall would be used to a little bit of flooding.....  "Historic flooding". "Never seen these roads closed before". Etc. We thought no way to get stranded here............NEVER think or say that........hahahahahahaha.........stuck. Our house and property are fine. This from standing on our closed road, looking up at our property way way to the left, way back in the trees. The seasonal creeks channel is on the RIGHT side of those brambles to the right. This overflow is on our neighbor's property.
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| Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:07 am |
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Traut
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Waterfront property!
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| Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:28 am |
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JohnMBrowning
Location: Bothell Joined: Sat Sep 12, 2015 Posts: 5565
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You know I'm just funnin with yoos.... Yeah - flat land along a babbling creek is always suspect in this area... Curious -- were there no indications of flood issues when you were looking at the property? Can't imagine that this is the first/only time this has happened....
I've always been amazed at the levels of flooding that happen in the area --- used to live in DT Redmond and watch the slough all the way up to Canyon Park --- impressive when it jumps the banks 10+ feet high.... I was told when I was looking for my house to always be wary of creeks and streams near a property....
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Pablo
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Location: Everson, WA Joined: Sun Jan 6, 2013 Posts: 28460
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JohnMBrowning wrote: You know I'm just funnin with yoos.... Yeah - flat land along a babbling creek is always suspect in this area... Curious -- were there no indications of flood issues when you were looking at the property? Can't imagine that this is the first/only time this has happened....
I've always been amazed at the levels of flooding that happen in the area --- used to live in DT Redmond and watch the slough all the way up to Canyon Park --- impressive when it jumps the banks 10+ feet high.... I was told when I was looking for my house to always be wary of creeks and streams near a property.... Can't know the exact history of all seasonal cricks, but that stream is on the neighbor's property and we are upslope on Sumas mtn (not to be confused with the town of Sumas which is actually constructed IN a lake) - the picture is a bit misleading as there is a decent slope already. And that sucker was bone dry all summer - hahahahaha. We lived on Fishtrap Creek in Lynden for 5+ years so sweating BB's became the norm........I mean that sucker was like 20 feet from the back of my shop. Never again. It was cool in many ways.......except the flood risk of course. This property now would require something altogether different to flood. The only surprise to us here is that all these creeks actually flow into the Sumas River, not the Nutsack. Sumas is currently inundated
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Caveman Jim
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Location: In my Cave near the Cloquallum Joined: Thu Sep 26, 2013 Posts: 8512
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cmica wrote: In Washington State, a new law passed this year prevents officers from chasing a car just because it’s stolen. Vehicle pursuits are now reserved only for crimes that pose a public safety risk. If a cop tries to pull someone in a stolen car over and the driver doesn’t stop, the cop has to let him go. https://www.q13fox.com/news/pcsd-pierce ... cars-risespretty sure a bunch of fucking (democraps) Progressive/socialist/communist passed this These MF’rs have taken over and are hiding under the Democrat flag. I am not advocating to saying that Democrats are good but there’s a big difference. Real Democrat voters are hoodwinked once again.
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dreadi
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Caveman Jim wrote: cmica wrote: In Washington State, a new law passed this year prevents officers from chasing a car just because it’s stolen. Vehicle pursuits are now reserved only for crimes that pose a public safety risk. If a cop tries to pull someone in a stolen car over and the driver doesn’t stop, the cop has to let him go. https://www.q13fox.com/news/pcsd-pierce ... cars-risespretty sure a bunch of fucking (democraps) Progressive/socialist/communist passed this These MF’rs have taken over and are hiding under the Democrat flag. I am not advocating to saying that Democrats are good but there’s a big difference. Real Democrat voters are hoodwinked once again. The thing is, the content of that link is not true. Being in possession of a stolen vehicle is a felony. Police can pursue someone committing a felony. https://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=9a.56.068Here’s the WSP policy about vehicle pursuits. https://www.waspc.org/assets/Profession ... ursuit.pdfBLACK HAMMER ARMS Type 07 Class 2 NFA Dealer http://www.blackhammerarms.comhttp://www.facebook.com/blackhammerarmshttps://www.instagram.com/blackhammerarmsGLOCK Certified Armourer
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TechnoWeenie
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The law doesn't say 'felony', it says violent crime, then lists a couple examples.. It also says that the outcome of catching the person has to outweigh any risk, which is vague as all hell, and since anyone fleeing can cause an accident at any time, it's 'too risky'... Quote: RCW 10.116.060 Vehicular pursuit. (1) A peace officer may not engage in a vehicular pursuit, unless: (a)(i) There is probable cause to believe that a person in the vehicle has committed or is committing a violent offense or sex offense as defined in RCW 9.94A.030, or an escape under chapter 9A.76 RCW; or (ii) There is reasonable suspicion a person in the vehicle has committed or is committing a driving under the influence offense under RCW 46.61.502; (b) The pursuit is necessary for the purpose of identifying or apprehending the person; (c) The person poses an imminent threat to the safety of others and the safety risks of failing to apprehend or identify the person are considered to be greater than the safety risks of the vehicular pursuit under the circumstances; and (d)(i) Except as provided in (d)(ii) of this subsection, the officer has received authorization to engage in the pursuit from a supervising officer and there is supervisory control of the pursuit. The officer in consultation with the supervising officer must consider alternatives to the vehicular pursuit. The supervisor must consider the justification for the vehicular pursuit and other safety considerations, including but not limited to speed, weather, traffic, road conditions, and the known presence of minors in the vehicle, and the vehicular pursuit must be terminated if any of the requirements of this subsection are not met; (ii) For those jurisdictions with fewer than 10 commissioned officers, if a supervisor is not on duty at the time, the officer will request the on-call supervisor be notified of the pursuit according to the agency's procedures. The officer must consider alternatives to the vehicular pursuit, the justification for the vehicular pursuit, and other safety considerations, including but not limited to speed, weather, traffic, road conditions, and the known presence of minors in the vehicle. The officer must terminate the vehicular pursuit if any of the requirements of this subsection are not met. (2) A pursuing officer shall comply with any agency procedures for designating the primary pursuit vehicle and determining the appropriate number of vehicles permitted to participate in the vehicular pursuit and comply with any agency procedures for coordinating operations with other jurisdictions, including available tribal police departments when applicable. (3) A peace officer may not fire a weapon upon a moving vehicle unless necessary to protect against an imminent threat of serious physical harm resulting from the operator's or a passenger's use of a deadly weapon. For the purposes of this subsection, a vehicle is not considered a deadly weapon unless the operator is using the vehicle as a deadly weapon and no other reasonable means to avoid potential serious harm are immediately available to the officer. (4) For purposes of this section, "vehicular pursuit" means an attempt by a uniformed peace officer in a vehicle equipped with emergency lights and a siren to stop a moving vehicle where the operator of the moving vehicle appears to be aware that the officer is signaling the operator to stop the vehicle and the operator of the moving vehicle appears to be willfully resisting or ignoring the officer's attempt to stop the vehicle by increasing vehicle speed, making evasive maneuvers, or operating the vehicle in a reckless manner that endangers the safety of the community or the officer. So, there you have it. BTW, that's an outdated WSP pursuit policy, from 2003....
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RockHopper
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"The officer in consultation with the supervising officer must consider alternatives to the vehicular pursuit"
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sportsdad60
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Pablo...get a John boat and waders. Be a hero. ;)
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usrifle
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TechnoWeenie wrote: The law doesn't say 'felony', it says violent crime, then lists a couple examples.. It also says that the outcome of catching the person has to outweigh any risk, which is vague as all hell, and since anyone fleeing can cause an accident at any time, it's 'too risky'... Quote: RCW 10.116.060 Vehicular pursuit. (1) A peace officer may not engage in a vehicular pursuit, unless: (a)(i) There is probable cause to believe that a person in the vehicle has committed or is committing a violent offense or sex offense as defined in RCW 9.94A.030, or an escape under chapter 9A.76 RCW; or (ii) There is reasonable suspicion a person in the vehicle has committed or is committing a driving under the influence offense under RCW 46.61.502; (b) The pursuit is necessary for the purpose of identifying or apprehending the person; (c) The person poses an imminent threat to the safety of others and the safety risks of failing to apprehend or identify the person are considered to be greater than the safety risks of the vehicular pursuit under the circumstances; and (d)(i) Except as provided in (d)(ii) of this subsection, the officer has received authorization to engage in the pursuit from a supervising officer and there is supervisory control of the pursuit. The officer in consultation with the supervising officer must consider alternatives to the vehicular pursuit. The supervisor must consider the justification for the vehicular pursuit and other safety considerations, including but not limited to speed, weather, traffic, road conditions, and the known presence of minors in the vehicle, and the vehicular pursuit must be terminated if any of the requirements of this subsection are not met; (ii) For those jurisdictions with fewer than 10 commissioned officers, if a supervisor is not on duty at the time, the officer will request the on-call supervisor be notified of the pursuit according to the agency's procedures. The officer must consider alternatives to the vehicular pursuit, the justification for the vehicular pursuit, and other safety considerations, including but not limited to speed, weather, traffic, road conditions, and the known presence of minors in the vehicle. The officer must terminate the vehicular pursuit if any of the requirements of this subsection are not met. (2) A pursuing officer shall comply with any agency procedures for designating the primary pursuit vehicle and determining the appropriate number of vehicles permitted to participate in the vehicular pursuit and comply with any agency procedures for coordinating operations with other jurisdictions, including available tribal police departments when applicable. (3) A peace officer may not fire a weapon upon a moving vehicle unless necessary to protect against an imminent threat of serious physical harm resulting from the operator's or a passenger's use of a deadly weapon. For the purposes of this subsection, a vehicle is not considered a deadly weapon unless the operator is using the vehicle as a deadly weapon and no other reasonable means to avoid potential serious harm are immediately available to the officer. (4) For purposes of this section, "vehicular pursuit" means an attempt by a uniformed peace officer in a vehicle equipped with emergency lights and a siren to stop a moving vehicle where the operator of the moving vehicle appears to be aware that the officer is signaling the operator to stop the vehicle and the operator of the moving vehicle appears to be willfully resisting or ignoring the officer's attempt to stop the vehicle by increasing vehicle speed, making evasive maneuvers, or operating the vehicle in a reckless manner that endangers the safety of the community or the officer. So, there you have it. BTW, that's an outdated WSP pursuit policy, from 2003.... I saw that when i looked it up. Not to mention all the public statements from PD Brass that they would err on the side of caution regarding the new Law.
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jukk0u
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Pablo wrote: JohnMBrowning wrote: Pablo wrote: Creek on south side of property burst the bank. Shit. Total FAIL without pics....  Shit man, I wasn't carrying my phone. Had shovel in hand. OK so far but below I think road in is flooded. I could see down to the corner and it was covered.........this creek has no name, seasonal. Water just pouring off the Sumas mountain and hills.......soil is saturated, hope he doesn't get hung up in your fence... https://komonews.com/news/local/officia ... loodwaters
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