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Re: Yes I-591/No I-594 Phonebanking

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 5:01 am
by glockgirl
Most recent non-partisan poll was the Elway Poll in April, with 72% favouring I-594 and 55% favouring I-591, the caveat being that 61% of those I-591 voters also favouring stricter gun control. Given the ruling yesterday in Colorado, wherein the judge upheld the newly passed gun control laws because, to paraphrase, she "could see no reasonable situation in which a civilian would need more than 15 rounds in a magazine", among other things, I do not think that a legal challenge to I-594, if passed, would succeed.

Another thing to remember is that this is an "off" or non-Presidential cycle year, meaning that fewer voters are likely to send in their ballots, meaning a potentially very close election. As to the annoyance of campaign calling, well, part of the reason for phonebanking from someone's actual house (in this case, mine) is that you can honestly tell the person whom you have called that you are giving up your personal time and are a volunteer, which tends to keep people on the phone longer and keep them more receptive to your views.

True story: Early in the 2012 election cycle, one call I made started accusing me of being from out of state, being paid to make pro-Obama calls, etc. I told the guy that no, I was just a volunteer, sitting at my kitchen table, with my cat in my lap and my dogs at my feet. He told me to prove it, so I did--by holding the phone up to my purring cat. It worked, and he eventually became a campaign volunteer.

Re: Yes I-591/No I-594 Phonebanking

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 5:04 am
by MadPick
Warren Oates wrote:I hate it during election season when those assholes start calling everyday....


Me too. And I hate the lies and bullshit. And campaign contributions.

But right now our asses are on the line, and the other side doesn't have ANY problem with these tactics.

Re: Yes I-591/No I-594 Phonebanking

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 7:47 am
by Benja455
MadPick wrote:
Warren Oates wrote:I hate it during election season when those assholes start calling everyday....


Me too. And I hate the lies and bullshit. And campaign contributions.

But right now our asses are on the line, and the other side doesn't have ANY problem with these tactics.


Correct...they are using the existing campaign machinery that got gay marriage approved (which I supported). The campaign director is the same, a lot of the major donors are the same and a lot of the volunteers are the same.

The other side knows how to win (and has a track record of success) and I don't think people are taking this seriously enough. I am really disappointed in all of the major 2A organizations who run around collecting insane amounts of cash any time Obama opens his mouth; but we are about to get royally screwed and there's no infrastructure, no support...the fact that no one from 591 has commented on this thread is basically confirming the (negative) outcome of the election for me.

Re: Yes I-591/No I-594 Phonebanking

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 9:23 am
by glockgirl
Benja455 wrote:
MadPick wrote:
Warren Oates wrote:I hate it during election season when those assholes start calling everyday....


Me too. And I hate the lies and bullshit. And campaign contributions.

But right now our asses are on the line, and the other side doesn't have ANY problem with these tactics.


Correct...they are using the existing campaign machinery that got gay marriage approved (which I supported). The campaign director is the same, a lot of the major donors are the same and a lot of the volunteers are the same.

The other side knows how to win (and has a track record of success) and I don't think people are taking this seriously enough. I am really disappointed in all of the major 2A organizations who run around collecting insane amounts of cash any time Obama opens his mouth; but we are about to get royally screwed and there's no infrastructure, no support...the fact that no one from 591 has commented on this thread is basically confirming the (negative) outcome of the election for me.


I was (and, ahem, still am) part of that infrastructure. A huge factor in the re-election of the POTUS was that we focussed on people as individuals, talking to them directly, as opposed to the GOP strategy of running commercials with very little local level campaigning, aside from fundraisers. If anything proves that money alone doesn't win elections, the 2012 Presidential cycle does. It is incredibly disappointing to me that none of the local or national pro-2A groups have put boots on the ground on this one.

Re: Yes I-591/No I-594 Phonebanking

Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 11:35 am
by glockgirl
Bump. Because I need warm bodies, and this is important. Should have an exact date within the next few days, when my ex in-laws return from NZ and give me the date that they're coming to retrieve my boys.