Tue Jul 01, 2014 10:00 am
Republicans propose halting foreign aid until border surge stops
Congressional Republicans are pushing legislation that would halt aid to Mexico and three Central American countries until they take action to stem the flow of children across the border.
Freshman Rep. Randy Weber's (R-Texas) bill, known as the Illegal Entry Accountability Act, would halt aid to Guatemala, El Salvador and Honduras, the three countries where most of the immigrants are coming from.
More than 52,000 unaccompanied minors, mostly from those three countries, have been detained on the U.S. border after entering through Mexico, mainly through the Rio Grande Valley into Texas.
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We give them billions but I don't think they are under any illusion that we give a rats ass about them. The threat of withholding billions is probably why Israel has not cleaned someones clock except in small doses. IMHOmancat wrote:how about they also stop giving billions to Israel each year, so long as they expect us to pacify the middle east for them rather than using their own perfectly capable military.
Tue Jul 01, 2014 1:03 pm
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Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:16 am
mcyclonegt wrote:We should stop giving aid to everybody. Why the fuck are we a blank check to the rest of the world?
Especially Pakistan, fuck those pieces of shit.
Wed Jul 02, 2014 1:40 am
usrifle wrote:mcyclonegt wrote:We should stop giving aid to everybody. Why the fuck are we a blank check to the rest of the world?
Especially Pakistan, fuck those pieces of shit.
Wed Jul 02, 2014 2:37 am
Wed Jul 02, 2014 3:53 am
.45ACPaddy wrote:Why don't we spend our dollars where it will actually make a difference? We can pour billions into sending our guys into a foreign country to fight terrorists, rather than that country getting off its ass and sending their own people in to do that job, which is why I think the new Iraqi military has been so laid back (from my own observations, my observations could be wrong). Or, we could pour that money into supplies (food and water) and let the other countries take care of their own military problems outside of food and water.
Or we could just pull out of everywhere and say to hell with the rest of the world. We ought to be our own nation, looking out for our own. Why not pour those billions of dollars into the US and help capable homeless people get jobs and housing? Why not get them jobs so they can pay back into the system like the rest of us do?
Actually, here's my big question: We got attacked on 9/11, it was apparently terrorists out of Afghanistan. Why did it suddenly shift to LETS FUCK UP IRAQ AND THAT SADDAM GUY while leaving Afghanistan in the background? Where was the jump?
Wed Jul 02, 2014 5:26 am
solyanik wrote:Bill Gates on foreign aid:
http://annualletter.gatesfoundation.org ... n=myth-two
"Many people think that development aid is a large part of rich countries’ budgets, which would mean a lot can be saved by cutting back. When pollsters ask Americans what share of the budget goes to aid, the average response is “25 percent.” When asked how much the government should spend, people tend to say “10 percent.” I suspect you would get similar results in the United Kingdom, Germany, and elsewhere.
Here are the actual numbers. For Norway, the most generous nation in the world, it’s less than 3 percent. For the United States, it’s less than 1 percent.
One percent of the U.S. budget is about $30 billion a year. Of that, roughly $11 billion is spent on health: vaccines, bed nets, family planning, drugs to keep people with HIV alive, and so on. (The other $19 billion goes to things like building schools, roads, and irrigation systems.)
I don’t want to imply that $11 billion a year isn’t a lot of money. But to put it in perspective, it’s about $30 for every American. Imagine that the income tax form asked, “Can we use $30 of the taxes you’re already paying to protect 120 children from measles?”4 Would you check yes or no?"
Wed Jul 02, 2014 7:41 am
TINCANBANDIT wrote:solyanik wrote:Bill Gates on foreign aid:
http://annualletter.gatesfoundation.org ... n=myth-two
"Many people think that development aid is a large part of rich countries’ budgets, which would mean a lot can be saved by cutting back. When pollsters ask Americans what share of the budget goes to aid, the average response is “25 percent.” When asked how much the government should spend, people tend to say “10 percent.” I suspect you would get similar results in the United Kingdom, Germany, and elsewhere.
Here are the actual numbers. For Norway, the most generous nation in the world, it’s less than 3 percent. For the United States, it’s less than 1 percent.
One percent of the U.S. budget is about $30 billion a year. Of that, roughly $11 billion is spent on health: vaccines, bed nets, family planning, drugs to keep people with HIV alive, and so on. (The other $19 billion goes to things like building schools, roads, and irrigation systems.)
I don’t want to imply that $11 billion a year isn’t a lot of money. But to put it in perspective, it’s about $30 for every American. Imagine that the income tax form asked, “Can we use $30 of the taxes you’re already paying to protect 120 children from measles?”4 Would you check yes or no?"
$30 here, $50 there.....pretty soon you are paying $20K in taxes....I am sick of it....I am sorry this other countries are shitholes, but our veterans bled and died for us to have it good.....let them bleed now
Wed Jul 02, 2014 7:55 am
mcyclonegt wrote:We should stop giving aid to everybody. Why the fuck are we a blank check to the rest of the world?
Especially Pakistan, fuck those pieces of shit.