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jukk0u
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Jagerbomber35 wrote: This not towards any one person, as many, many people here do it. Why do people insist on calling names like GayJay, Hitlery, Odumbo, Cheeto in Charge etc? I realize this is probably a very uncommon opinion, but to me, no matter the side youre on, as soon as you result to name calling your argument loses all power to me. It just seems like regardless of how much we detest these people, and how terrible they may actually be, school yard insults just puts you on their same level. I personally disregard any post made by someone with these petty potshots(which is a lot) no matter what part of the membership base they come from(and both sides do do it). Leave it to the beer swilling, car racing, Sedro Wooley/back woods living, greasy handed machinist to be the voice of reason! I'm probably among the worst offenders here, and yet I agree with you to a certain point. There are reasons why people employ such linguistic tactics and each impacts their message to differing degrees. A person who says "You're a doody-head" and leaves it at that only points to their own out-right cerebral incompetence, as you note. Then there are those who think that such embellishment actually enhances their argument; this, too, is not effective. Then there are those (and I hope this is where I end up, and am perceived to be) ... those that employ epithet and invective only to dramatic effect to enhance interest in the conversation and entice rebuttal and comment, without expectation that such language is what has won the day. (I will be sure to police my commentary going forward, but I'm certain I will back-slide) I'm also pretty sure that many who use this kind of language (here), are only bloviating in a conversation, and venting discontent about situations where they have little or no ability to effect change and therefore have less of a reason to employ serious and disciplined argument. Still, your point is well taken. Thanks Obama!
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KeystoneCowboy
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jukk0u wrote: Jagerbomber35 wrote: This not towards any one person, as many, many people here do it. Why do people insist on calling names like GayJay, Hitlery, Odumbo, Cheeto in Charge etc? I realize this is probably a very uncommon opinion, but to me, no matter the side youre on, as soon as you result to name calling your argument loses all power to me. It just seems like regardless of how much we detest these people, and how terrible they may actually be, school yard insults just puts you on their same level. I personally disregard any post made by someone with these petty potshots(which is a lot) no matter what part of the membership base they come from(and both sides do do it). Leave it to the beer swilling, car racing, Sedro Wooley/back woods living, greasy handed machinist to be the voice of reason! I'm probably among the worst offenders here, and yet I agree with you to a certain point. There are reasons why people employ such linguistic tactics and each impacts their message to differing degrees. A person who says "You're a doody-head" and leaves it at that only points to their own out-right cerebral incompetence, as you note. Then there are those who think that such embellishment actually enhances their argument; this, too, is not effective. Then there are those (and I hope this is where I end up, and am perceived to be) ... those that employ epithet and invective only to dramatic effect to enhance interest in the conversation and entice rebuttal and comment, without expectation that such language is what has won the day. (I will be sure to police my commentary going forward, but I'm certain I will back-slide) I'm also pretty sure that many who use this kind of language (here), are only bloviating in a conversation, and venting discontent about situations where they have little or no ability to effect change and therefore have less of a reason to employ serious and disciplined argument. Still, your point is well taken. Thanks Obama! I am here because of my love of firearms. Also, I am among mostly like-minded people. Its not even that I disagree or dont with what is being said, just when with little exaggeration, every time Governor Inslee is mentioned, he is GayJay. For all I care he could die in a car fire and I wouldnt shed a tear, I just do not see the point in mocking his sexuality in a post about his anti 2A stance. What does one have to do with the other, other than for the sake of name calling? Jim, not arguing with you, I am merely expounding on my aforementioned point with some more clarity perhaps.
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golddigger14s
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I wish Popeye's everywhere would do this, then I would become a customer at least once: https://bayourenaissanceman.blogspot.co ... -1033.html"Today's award goes to People Eating Tasty Animals People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA). By overreacting in the most hysterically over-the-top way to a restaurant food promotion, they've ensured that a local (one-city-only) promotion has people talking about it all across the country."
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jukk0u
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^Unintended consequences. next topic... Cascadia Creamery sleeping beauty.
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"The said Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms." ~ Samuel Adams
“A return to First Principles in a Republic is sometimes caused by simple virtues of a single man. His good example has such an influence that the good men strive to imitate him, and the wicked are ashamed to lead a life so contrary to his example. Before all else, be armed!” ~ Niccolo Machiavelli
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RocketScott
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Jagerbomber35 wrote: I am here because of my love of firearms. Also, I am among mostly like-minded people. Its not even that I disagree or dont with what is being said, just when with little exaggeration, every time Governor Inslee is mentioned, he is GayJay. For all I care he could die in a car fire and I wouldnt shed a tear, I just do not see the point in mocking his sexuality in a post about his anti 2A stance. What does one have to do with the other, other than for the sake of name calling? Jim, not arguing with you, I am merely expounding on my aforementioned point with some more clarity perhaps.
You have to admit that Turd Ferguson is pretty good though I mean, it does insult turds everywhere but it's an apt description for our AG
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WaJim
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Jagerbomber35 wrote: jukk0u wrote: Jagerbomber35 wrote: This not towards any one person, as many, many people here do it. Why do people insist on calling names like GayJay, Hitlery, Odumbo, Cheeto in Charge etc? I realize this is probably a very uncommon opinion, but to me, no matter the side youre on, as soon as you result to name calling your argument loses all power to me. It just seems like regardless of how much we detest these people, and how terrible they may actually be, school yard insults just puts you on their same level. I personally disregard any post made by someone with these petty potshots(which is a lot) no matter what part of the membership base they come from(and both sides do do it). Leave it to the beer swilling, car racing, Sedro Wooley/back woods living, greasy handed machinist to be the voice of reason! I'm probably among the worst offenders here, and yet I agree with you to a certain point. There are reasons why people employ such linguistic tactics and each impacts their message to differing degrees. A person who says "You're a doody-head" and leaves it at that only points to their own out-right cerebral incompetence, as you note. Then there are those who think that such embellishment actually enhances their argument; this, too, is not effective. Then there are those (and I hope this is where I end up, and am perceived to be) ... those that employ epithet and invective only to dramatic effect to enhance interest in the conversation and entice rebuttal and comment, without expectation that such language is what has won the day. (I will be sure to police my commentary going forward, but I'm certain I will back-slide) I'm also pretty sure that many who use this kind of language (here), are only bloviating in a conversation, and venting discontent about situations where they have little or no ability to effect change and therefore have less of a reason to employ serious and disciplined argument. Still, your point is well taken. Thanks Obama! I am here because of my love of firearms. Also, I am among mostly like-minded people. Its not even that I disagree or dont with what is being said, just when with little exaggeration, every time Governor Inslee is mentioned, he is GayJay. For all I care he could die in a car fire and I wouldnt shed a tear, I just do not see the point in mocking his sexuality in a post about his anti 2A stance. What does one have to do with the other, other than for the sake of name calling? Jim, not arguing with you, I am merely expounding on my aforementioned point with some more clarity perhaps. Well Jaeger, I have a good reason for the pseudonyms besides poking fun. The Internet, as much as we like to use it, could be used against you. Call it Interweb 'insulation' from direct Googlie-Fu. Not that I'm worried (well, maybe a little) but using the correct spelling of a politician and doing a huge rant on how you'd like to see them leap off the narrows bridge 'could' be googlied back to this site, and therefore back to me. You'll always see when I post anything political I will spell the name of the politician wrong on purpose. This gets my points across without actually using their proper names....... The Big Brother is watching
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WaJim
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jukk0u wrote: ^Unintended consequences. next topic... Cascadia Creamery sleeping beauty. You looking to do a Group buy? I see they come in 6lb wheels. That's a shit ton of Ritz crackers.
_________________ "Remove one freedom per generation and soon you will have no freedom and no one would have noticed."......Carl Marx
"Let us Cross the river and sit in the shade of the trees" .....Stonewall Jackson
T. Jefferson "....the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. it is it's natural manure"
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dreadi
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All this GayJay talk since I moved here had me thinking he was gay. Then about a week ago I looked it up. Oh..no..most likely not gay.
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RocketScott
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dreadi wrote: All this GayJay talk since I moved here had me thinking he was gay. Then about a week ago I looked it up. Oh..no..most likely not gay. Yea, I'm old enough to get that it's a cut down but also old enough to not really give a shit. It just doesn't hold water anymore
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jukk0u
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Okay... alright... no more Ghey Jay. How about jus-s-stpp Governor Ins-s-thley?
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"The said Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms." ~ Samuel Adams
“A return to First Principles in a Republic is sometimes caused by simple virtues of a single man. His good example has such an influence that the good men strive to imitate him, and the wicked are ashamed to lead a life so contrary to his example. Before all else, be armed!” ~ Niccolo Machiavelli
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WaJim
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dreadi wrote: All this GayJay talk since I moved here had me thinking he was gay. Then about a week ago I looked it up. Oh..no..most likely not gay. Well, with the last half dozen Seattle mayors gay and one that's an accused child molester that pays off his victims and hasn't seen investigation worth a shit or prosecution yet. Why anyone question it..... Not that there's anything wrong with that. And its odd that you used the words " most likely"
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T. Jefferson "....the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. it is it's natural manure"
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dreadi
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WaJim wrote: dreadi wrote: All this GayJay talk since I moved here had me thinking he was gay. Then about a week ago I looked it up. Oh..no..most likely not gay. Well, with the last half dozen Seattle mayors gay and one that's an accused child molester that pays off his victims and hasn't seen investigation worth a shit or prosecution yet. Why anyone question it..... Not that there's anything wrong with that. And its odd that you used the words " most likely" Just because a man marries a woman and has kids with the woman, doesn’t mean he’s not gay. I’ve seen it enough to not presume someone’s sexuality based on appearances. After all, in this part of the country, I think it’s perfectly acceptable to be married to the opposite sex or non sex and have kids with that person and consider yourself straight, non-binary, queer, or whatever else (that I can’t keep up with). I personally know two men that have married women, had kid(s), and later on in life came out. My first wife came out to me, “I’ve always been gay but, you were my best friend. I always wanted to marry my best friend.” Also, I don’t really care if someone’s gay/straight/q/b/t/a. Just keep your hand out my pocket.
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RocketScott
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dreadi wrote: Also, I don’t really care if someone’s gay/straight/q/b/t/a. Just keep your hand out my pocket. I’m not gay either but I thought that was OK last time I did it Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Selador
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RocketScott wrote: dreadi wrote: Also, I don’t really care if someone’s gay/straight/q/b/t/a. Just keep your hand out my pocket. I’m not gay either but I thought that was OK last time I did it You put your hand in Dreadi's pocket???
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