Marysville Mt Pilchuck shooting

[dogfish]

The protection order was from Tribal Court. Sovereign Nation.

[hkcavalier]

Be careful with these arguments --- the risk is you paint yourself into a corner with the federal registration proponents. Then that "one system to rule them all" database becomes a real thing.

[Benja455]

I heard this on the radio this morning...ugh.

[dogfish]

Some Tribes have cliques, with essentially an elite family or a number of elite families within each Tribe that do have a fair amount influence within the Tribe. I believe this family was one such example.

[Ops]

guess background checks are null with indians

[Pablo]

Protected class.

For special people.

[mancat]

Q13 news working this story hilariously hard on their evening broadcast - "the system is broken."

Smell more crap heading this way.

[Louddog]

Some Tribes have cliques, with essentially an elite family or a number of elite families within each Tribe that do have a fair amount influence within the Tribe. I believe this family was one such example.

I know people in Marysville schools. This is VERY true from what I've heard from them.

[Pablo]

Q13 news working this story hilariously hard on their evening broadcast - "the system is broken."

Smell more crap heading this way.

Gun lock up laws, incoming.

[Marine3%er]

Wait, you mean someone illegally obtained a firearm despite being prohibited by a piece of paper?! No way!

And not just obtained a firearm (five of them, in fact), but obtained it WITH a background check!

And one a pistol so the WA state paper work also

[mancat]

Some Tribes have cliques, with essentially an elite family or a number of elite families within each Tribe that do have a fair amount influence within the Tribe. I believe this family was one such example.

I know people in Marysville schools. This is VERY true from what I've heard from them.

When I heard that he bought five guns without the tribal police reporting back on his PO, this is exactly what I thought. Someone knew him and wanted to give him a pass.

If this is the case, I imagine the story will more or less disappear.

[mislabeled]

Some Tribes have cliques, with essentially an elite family or a number of elite families within each Tribe that do have a fair amount influence within the Tribe. I believe this family was one such example.

I know people in Marysville schools. This is VERY true from what I've heard from them.

When I heard that he bought five guns without the tribal police reporting back on his PO, this is exactly what I thought. Someone knew him and wanted to give him a pass.

If this is the case, I imagine the story will more or less disappear.

Hmm, we'll see. Most--if not all--of the Tulalip police are also deputized/cross commissioned with Snohomish County. That would be a pretty big issue for the SCSO.

[Pablo]

And yet, if he had tried to purchase those firearms from a private party who required a CPL for the sale, he might not have been able to get his hands on them.

That's a great point.

Golddigger sucks at the net, but he nailed it with the "Tribal Loophole" title.

[dogfish]

Some Tribes have cliques, with essentially an elite family or a number of elite families within each Tribe that do have a fair amount influence within the Tribe. I believe this family was one such example.

I know people in Marysville schools. This is VERY true from what I've heard from them.

When I heard that he bought five guns without the tribal police reporting back on his PO, this is exactly what I thought. Someone knew him and wanted to give him a pass.

If this is the case, I imagine the story will more or less disappear.

Hmm, we'll see. Most--if not all--of the Tulalip police are also deputized/cross commissioned with Snohomish County. That would be a pretty big issue for the SCSO.

When I was with Whatcom County NONE of the Tribal police in that county had any powers of arrest on non-tribal persons. Cool if the Tulalips were state commissioned officers, but if so their reporting needs to follow as well. The tribal police we dealt with could stop and detain, and hand off to us, nothing more. We could stop and detain Tribal members from any Tribe on reservation, but had to hand them off to Tribal police if they identified themselves as Tribal members. There were even roads we were not to drive on (Tribal clique) without Tribal LEO escort. In the county proper, off reservation, everyone was fair game.

[ANZAC]

Can any FFLs comment if the handgun background check process is different for a tribal member?

I assumed anyone buying a handgun at a dealer, the check goes via the state POC who checks state and local records, and NICS.
The failure here is state or local/tribal, not at NICS. (although NICS should have flagged it too, so clearly the info wasn't sent to them either, but if you read documents on the BJS site, the state/local records are always considered a superset of NICS for records from that state)

It doesn't prove background checks are a bad idea. It proves what we already knew, that they are not 100% perfect.