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Re: SC cop charged with Murder...

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 6:54 pm
by mash man
Massivedesign wrote:
mash man wrote:

He didn't.. I asked the question if he was referring to WaGuns, and I took his subsequent responses to mean the general population, as a whole (i.e... the nation). If I am wrong, and he meant we were racist at WaGuns, then I strongly disagree.

Sometimes, when you expect a person to say something, one easily takes anything they say as what you expected. Even if they didn't say it. That's why it's a good thing to ask articulated questions, in hope to get articulated answers.

Everything is yellow to the jaundiced eye. Everybody knows that you don't like KM7 and that KM7 isn't very fond of you. But that doesn't mean that everything out of his mouth is an attack, and vice versa.

I am actually very impressed/surprised that you posted that cooked goose photo. For that, I give you 2 internets.


when he said
kf7mjf wrote:pro shooting runners wouldn't be there.
He was referring to waguns as it was said here. I personally don't care what color creed or shoes size you wear if you're a POS than your a POS but nobody here said anything close to anything that was racist.

Re: SC cop charged with Murder...

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 6:55 pm
by mash man
Spokepoker wrote:Michael Slager fired from South Carolina police force after killing of Walter Scott

The white police officer who fatally shot 50-year-old black man Walter Scott has been fired by the North Charleston police department, city officials confirmed on Wednesday.

Mayor Keith Summey said that officer Michael Slager, 33, had his contract terminated, though the city will continue to cover his insurance until his wife, who is eight months pregnant, gives birth to their baby.


Jeez, the police union doesn't even want to defend this guy. He done fucked up BIG time.



From the looks of the video up he is going away for a long long time.

Re: SC cop charged with Murder...

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 7:00 pm
by CurtisLemansky
I love how we get preached at to look past race, yet that's all that seems to matter to the media in these situations. It's sick. Someone asked earlier how they benefit out of stoking a race war; two things: money from the ratings all the overdramatizing produces and distraction from what's really going on in this country. If we're too busy fighting each other, we can't stand up to the establishment that's fucking us in the ass every day.


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Re: SC cop charged with Murder...

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 7:03 pm
by MadPick
CurtisLemansky wrote:I love how we get preached at to look past race, yet that's all that seems to matter to the media in these situations. It's sick.


Agreed.

I listen to NPR on my commute, and every time one of these stories come up they refer back to Ferguson, "where a white police officer shot an unarmed black man." White, black and unarmed; those three words are always there.

This, even though now all of the facts have been compiled, and it was ruled a justified shoot . . . and yet, the implication in that sentence is that Michael Brown was murdered. :angryfire:

Re: SC cop charged with Murder...

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 7:12 pm
by Massivedesign
Agreed as well. How many times do we see main stream media circle the wagons around a white cop shooting a white person, or even a black cop shooting a black person. We don't.

But the MSM have NO problem highlighting when a WHITE cop shoots a BLACK (or any race that's not WHITE) person.

So yes, race is a factor in this situation, because it's the race card that has brought it to our attention.

Re: SC cop charged with Murder...

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 7:17 pm
by mash man
Massivedesign wrote:Agreed as well. How many times do we see main stream media circle the wagons around a white cop shooting a white person, or even a black cop shooting a black person. We don't.

But the MSM have NO problem highlighting when a WHITE cop shoots a BLACK (or any race that's not WHITE) person.

So yes, race is a factor in this situation, because it's the race card that has brought it to our attention.


Ask why do they do that? Because it sells and there are enough idiots that believe that shit.

Re: SC cop charged with Murder...

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 7:50 pm
by ANZAC
mash man wrote:
Massivedesign wrote:Agreed as well. How many times do we see main stream media circle the wagons around a white cop shooting a white person, or even a black cop shooting a black person. We don't.

But the MSM have NO problem highlighting when a WHITE cop shoots a BLACK (or any race that's not WHITE) person.

So yes, race is a factor in this situation, because it's the race card that has brought it to our attention.


Ask why do they do that? Because it sells and there are enough idiots that believe that shit.


I'm having a long running argument with some liberals on Facebook who blame EVERYTHING on racism.

And they say "you don't know anything about it because you're white".

All I know is, i was raised to know the difference between right and wrong, and to treat people with respect, and to value human life. The privilege I was born with was good parents who taught me those things.

The thugs we see involved in many of these encounters have no value for human life. They roll the dice when they fight with the cops, or try and run. I don't condone shooting someone without justification, but these situations weren't created because the subjects were black, it was because they fought with the police. What happens after that is anyone's guess.

Re: SC cop charged with Murder...

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 8:12 pm
by XDM9cWA
ANZAC wrote:
All I know is, i was raised to know the difference between right and wrong, and to treat people with respect, and to value human life. The privilege I was born with was good parents who taught me those things.

The thugs we see involved in many of these encounters have no value for human life. They roll the dice when they fight with the cops, or try and run. I don't condone shooting someone without justification, but these situations weren't created because the subjects were black, it was because they fought with the police. What happens after that is anyone's guess.



The main thing the video shows me is how the excop had no value for human life... you can see how he took the shot... it was calm, composed and deliberate... almost like hunting an animal...

he became inhuman... and thats what should bother everybody....

Re: SC cop charged with Murder...

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 8:17 pm
by mash man
XDM9cWA wrote:
ANZAC wrote:
All I know is, i was raised to know the difference between right and wrong, and to treat people with respect, and to value human life. The privilege I was born with was good parents who taught me those things.

The thugs we see involved in many of these encounters have no value for human life. They roll the dice when they fight with the cops, or try and run. I don't condone shooting someone without justification, but these situations weren't created because the subjects were black, it was because they fought with the police. What happens after that is anyone's guess.



The main thing the video shows me is how the excop had no value for human life... you can see how he took the shot... it was calm, composed and deliberate... almost like hunting an animal...

he became inhuman... and thats what should bother everybody....


From going of JUST the part of the video we very to see yes I call it a bad shoot. BUT as far as the inhuman part I would call that good training. That is a high stress situation unless you are a hit man or some shit not likely he was in that situation a lot.

Re: SC cop charged with Murder...

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 8:19 pm
by kf7mjf
How is a guy with his back turned to you and running a high stress situation? Seems most of us would have the presence of mind to go "I shouldn't shoot this guy eight times in the back". Makes you question his humanity and training.

Re: SC cop charged with Murder...

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 8:49 pm
by CurtisLemansky
Maybe he considered the little patty cake they played over the taser an assault and then shot him, in his mind, as a fleeing felon? Still stupid, but he's got to have some explanation, right?


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Re: SC cop charged with Murder...

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 10:09 pm
by UpDog
CurtisLemansky wrote:Maybe he considered the little patty cake they played over the taser an assault and then shot him, in his mind, as a fleeing felon? Still stupid, but he's got to have some explanation, right?


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Usually when someone flees, there is a thing called chase.

Re: SC cop charged with Murder...

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 10:13 pm
by XDM9cWA
UpDog wrote:
CurtisLemansky wrote:Maybe he considered the little patty cake they played over the taser an assault and then shot him, in his mind, as a fleeing felon? Still stupid, but he's got to have some explanation, right?


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Usually when someone flees, there is a thing called chase.


and the guy wasn't even running that fast...

Re: SC cop charged with Murder...

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2015 12:41 am
by Benja455
kf7mjf wrote:How is a guy with his back turned to you and running a high stress situation? Seems most of us would have the presence of mind to go "I shouldn't shoot this guy eight times in the back". Makes you question his humanity and training.


And every single case he's ever worked.

XDM9cWA wrote:
UpDog wrote:
CurtisLemansky wrote:Maybe he considered the little patty cake they played over the taser an assault and then shot him, in his mind, as a fleeing felon? Still stupid, but he's got to have some explanation, right?


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Usually when someone flees, there is a thing called chase.


and the guy wasn't even running that fast...


Because he's 50 and out of shape...the ex-cop was 33 years old.

Re: SC cop charged with Murder...

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2015 4:13 am
by ANZAC
kf7mjf wrote:How is a guy with his back turned to you and running a high stress situation? Seems most of us would have the presence of mind to go "I shouldn't shoot this guy eight times in the back". Makes you question his humanity and training.


The stress occurs at the time they were hands on with each other. It takes people's adrenalin a while to lower. This kind of reminds me of a post car-chase beating.... although the weird thing is he looks pretty calm after the shoot. I'd be all "holy crap".