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Ted Cruz . . . WOW!
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Site Admin   Location: Renton, WA Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2011 Posts: 53104 Real Name: Steve 
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Pablo wrote: You cannot deny a HUGE percentage of our population use abortion as a litmus test for politicians. Yup . . . just like I use gun rights as a litmus test for my politicians. I've decided that gun rights are my one BIG issue, and that determines how I vote. Sometimes that means that my candidates vote against me on other issues, unfortunately. For example, I believe in abortion rights, but most of the pro-gun candidates are Republican, and most Republicans are anti-abortion. _________________ Steve Benefactor Life Member, National Rifle Association Life Member, Second Amendment Foundation Patriot & Life Member, Gun Owners of America Life Member, Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms Legal Action Supporter, Firearms Policy Coalition Member, NAGR/NFGR Please support the organizations that support all of us. Leave it cleaner than you found it. |
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Site Supporter   Location: Everson, WA Joined: Sun Jan 6, 2013 Posts: 28461 Real Name: Ace Winky
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MadPick wrote: Pablo wrote: You cannot deny a HUGE percentage of our population use abortion as a litmus test for politicians. Yup . . . just like I use gun rights as a litmus test for my politicians. I've decided that gun rights are my one BIG issue, and that determines how I vote. Sometimes that means that my candidates vote against me on other issues, unfortunately. For example, I believe in abortion rights, but most of the pro-gun candidates are Republican, and most Republicans are anti-abortion. It's interesting. I am anti-abortion. But I am not for laws banning the practice. _________________ Why does the Penguin in Batman sound like a duck? Because the eagle sounds like a hawk. |
| Wed Apr 15, 2015 4:44 pm |
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Pablo wrote: Now I do agree there are two faced Republicans, but man.........Hillary is a Champion for the People? Wow. The press is falling for this. Are you freedom lovers falling for it too? And gun owners tend to use a very specific litmus test to evaluate politicians as well. Not saying it's wrong to do so, but voters who determine their candidates based on any single issue tend to have highly polarized viewpoints. I'll continue to vote for whoever actually represents smaller, less intrusive government and supports everybody's rights. Find me a candidate who supports allowing gay married couples to defend their marijuana plants with automatic weapons. Currently, that excludes the Democratic party and the GOP. _________________ Massivedesign wrote: There is no such thing as 5.56 55gr.. |
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Site Supporter  Location: Olympia Joined: Wed Feb 6, 2013 Posts: 5365 Real Name: Reid
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MadPick wrote: Pablo wrote: You cannot deny a HUGE percentage of our population use abortion as a litmus test for politicians. Yup . . . just like I use gun rights as a litmus test for my politicians. I've decided that gun rights are my one BIG issue, and that determines how I vote. Sometimes that means that my candidates vote against me on other issues, unfortunately. For example, I believe in abortion rights, but most of the pro-gun candidates are Republican, and most Republicans are anti-abortion. It's what makes choosing who to vote for hard for me. I'm pro-gun, but I'm also pro-choice, pro-marriage equality, and pro-pot. These ideals are often mutually exclusive in politicians. _________________ "If it doesn't work, the proper sequence of tools is duct tape->screwdriver->hammer->shotgun. If none of that fixes it, it wasn't meant to work in the first place." I am free because I say I am. My freedom is not dependent on any government benefit or piece of legislation. My rights are inherent in the fact that I was born a sovereign being. They are non-negotiable. The government can list them and protect them, but my rights are not theirs to give away. Yolo: Because idiots don't know what "carpe diem" means. What, do you think I`m an amateur? You think this is Amateur hour? I`m covered in broken glass and hatred. You think someone would want to anger that with a Vz? - Fjordforder |
| Wed Apr 15, 2015 4:47 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: Everson, WA Joined: Sun Jan 6, 2013 Posts: 28461 Real Name: Ace Winky
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cycle61 wrote: Pablo wrote: Now I do agree there are two faced Republicans, but man.........Hillary is a Champion for the People? Wow. The press is falling for this. Are you freedom lovers falling for it too? And gun owners tend to use a very specific litmus test to evaluate politicians as well. Not saying it's wrong to do so, but voters who determine their candidates based on any single issue tend to have highly polarized viewpoints. I'll continue to vote for whoever actually represents smaller, less intrusive government and supports everybody's rights. Find me a candidate who supports allowing gay married couples to defend their marijuana plants with automatic weapons. Currently, that excludes the Democratic party and the GOP. We're not that far apart. But I tell you, the GOP has moved more on abortion than the Dem's on guns. _________________ Why does the Penguin in Batman sound like a duck? Because the eagle sounds like a hawk. |
| Wed Apr 15, 2015 4:47 pm |
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Pablo wrote: We're not that far apart. But I tell you, the GOP has moved more on abortion than the Dem's on guns. Agreed. And they'll keep losing my vote until they move more. (The GOP) Gun rights and marriage equality are both key issues for me. I cannot in good conscience support anybody who stands against either of those. _________________ Massivedesign wrote: There is no such thing as 5.56 55gr.. |
| Wed Apr 15, 2015 4:52 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: Lynnwood Joined: Thu Dec 6, 2012 Posts: 5443 Real Name: Sergey
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Gun rights are the top issue for me.
Honestly true Libertarianism is perfect for me. Don't like gays? Don't be gay. Don't like abortion? Don't get one. Don't like drugs? Don't do them. Don't like guns? Don't get one. But for fucks sake leave other people's decisions alone. The whole abortion issue, my thoughts on it, the majority of the people who want to get one are people I would prefer DIDNT reproduce in the first place. Sent from Crimea, Russia _________________ Sign up for Uber using this link and receive a bonus: https://partners.uber.com/i/1p9ey |
| Wed Apr 15, 2015 4:58 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: Everson, WA Joined: Sun Jan 6, 2013 Posts: 28461 Real Name: Ace Winky
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When abortion is legal, the crime rate does go down...........statistically related.......dunno.......but killing a damn human fetus. Wow....we are a screwed up society,
_________________ Why does the Penguin in Batman sound like a duck? Because the eagle sounds like a hawk. |
| Wed Apr 15, 2015 5:03 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: Federal Way Joined: Sat Sep 15, 2012 Posts: 5480
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cycle61 wrote: Pablo wrote: We're not that far apart. But I tell you, the GOP has moved more on abortion than the Dem's on guns. Agreed. And they'll keep losing my vote until they move more. (The GOP) Gun rights and marriage equality are both key issues for me. I cannot in good conscience support anybody who stands against either of those. I'm worried about my gun rights. Who fucks who or what is not something I care about and cant think why anyone would worry about it unless................................... Marriage equality is happening so anyone can marry who they chose, get over it and worry about the important things like the doubling of the national debt and giving Iran nukes. _________________ Banned for calling GOD a racist! Oh that's tight, Seattle guns is DEAD! |
| Wed Apr 15, 2015 5:08 pm |
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Classic wrote: I'm worried about my gun rights. Who fucks who or what is not something I care about and cant think why anyone would worry about it unless................................... Marriage equality is happening so anyone can marry who they chose, get over it and worry about the important things like the doubling of the national debt and giving Iran nukes. Glad you agree. Now kindly tell your GOP representatives that they're on the wrong side of history on this one so they can start regaining moderate votes. Family values my ass. Marriage existed before Christianity, it's not theirs to define or defend. _________________ Massivedesign wrote: There is no such thing as 5.56 55gr.. |
| Wed Apr 15, 2015 5:10 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: Federal Way Joined: Sat Sep 15, 2012 Posts: 5480
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cycle61 wrote: Classic wrote: I'm worried about my gun rights. Who fucks who or what is not something I care about and cant think why anyone would worry about it unless................................... Marriage equality is happening so anyone can marry who they chose, get over it and worry about the important things like the doubling of the national debt and giving Iran nukes. Glad you agree. Now kindly tell your GOP representatives that they're on the wrong side of history on this one so they can start regaining moderate votes. Family values my ass. Marriage existed before Christianity, it's not theirs to define or defend. OK, Inquiring minds wanna know... Why do you care who nails who? I mean really, thou doth protest too much! _________________ Banned for calling GOD a racist! Oh that's tight, Seattle guns is DEAD! |
| Wed Apr 15, 2015 5:17 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: Federal Way Joined: Sat Sep 15, 2012 Posts: 5480
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especially on a gun blog!
_________________ Banned for calling GOD a racist! Oh that's tight, Seattle guns is DEAD! |
| Wed Apr 15, 2015 5:18 pm |
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Site Supporter Joined: Fri Oct 24, 2014 Posts: 1357
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Classic wrote: OK, Inquiring minds wanna know... Why do you care who nails who? I mean really, thou doth protest too much! I don't care. That's exactly the point. I think that two consenting adults in a committed long term relationship should have the same legal and social rights regardless of their respective genders. That seems to be a really scary, icky concept for the religious-leaning component of the GOP. _________________ Massivedesign wrote: There is no such thing as 5.56 55gr.. |
| Wed Apr 15, 2015 5:27 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: Federal Way Joined: Sat Sep 15, 2012 Posts: 5480
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cycle61 wrote: Classic wrote: OK, Inquiring minds wanna know... Why do you care who nails who? I mean really, thou doth protest too much! I don't care. That's exactly the point. I think that two consenting adults in a committed long term relationship should have the same legal and social rights regardless of their respective genders. That seems to be a really scary, icky concept for the religious-leaning component of the GOP. Please.... 70+% of the US believe in God so it's not just the GOP and it's not ALL of the GOP. Don't ya think it's time that ya worry about something that affects ALL the people instead of 11%? _________________ Banned for calling GOD a racist! Oh that's tight, Seattle guns is DEAD! |
| Wed Apr 15, 2015 5:30 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: Olympia Joined: Sat Oct 29, 2011 Posts: 16026 Real Name: Steve
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Believing in God doesn't mean supporting institutionalized discrimination against gays. And how about supporting all people, instead of crushing a minority in the name of appealing to the American Taliban.... err fundamental Christians?
_________________ "I won't insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said." - William Buckley, Jr. "...steam, artillery and revolvers give to civilized man an irresistible power." -Perry Collins |
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