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I am concerned about a blacklist and afraid of medication with side effects that could affect my productivity. I'm taking full time classes online and really can't afford a week of no sleep or lethargy or whatever while playing with meds.

Listen Steve, I think it's pretty obvious from previous posts that you and I have not always seen eye to eye on certain subjects. With that said, I ill also say that I have always found your comments intelligent and engaging if not provocative.

I don't know you very well but my impression is that you are a very intelligent person with a good sense of humor, yet sincere and passionate about your beliefs. You are what I would term, "real people". You don't come across as plastic or phony or somebody trying too hard to fit in. I admire that about you.

I live in Everett but I have Sunday or Monday evenings available as my days off from my graveyard shift. I'm not a doctor nor do I possess any mental health education but I do know how to listen and be a friend. If you're in need and willing I would drive to wherever you are and buy you coffee or dinner, introduce myself and let you get to know me and vice versa. I'm married so don't get any funny ideas but I do care about the people on this forum. Like I said, You are one of the good guys despite our differences.

Let me know if I can help or if you're interested in my offer.

Sincerely,

11B

I hope you can find the help you need. It will take time stick with it. I really wouldn't be too worried about getting blacklisted, it's not like you are unstable, chugging a 1/5th and have suicidal thoughts. If you just have thoughts like "oh I just don't want to be here anymore life is hard on me right now, but it will get better" and not "gee my life sucks and I'm done" and you are playing with a loaded gun, you will be fine. Every one has a hard time sometime in their life, it's how you help yoursf that matters. These people arnt out to throw you under the bus because you are trying to clear yourself. They will ask about suicide, just answer truthfully. If they ask about guns just say you don't have any.

The meds may make you feel different, but they arnt designed to work right away, it should take a couple of weeks. If you do feel it and it's too much just take 1/2 a dose.



http://m.psychiatrists.psychologytoday. ... pia&spec=2

Edward case looks like he might be into guns and says he prefers therapy over meds. Ask him questions and see if he's a fit for you.

Hope I helped you out

old11bravo wrote:Listen Steve, I think it's pretty obvious from previous posts that you and I have not always seen eye to eye on certain subjects. With that said, I ill also say that I have always found your comments intelligent and engaging if not provocative.

I don't know you very well but my impression is that you are a very intelligent person with a good sense of humor, yet sincere and passionate about your beliefs. You are what I would term, "real people". You don't come across as plastic or phony or somebody trying too hard to fit in. I admire that about you.

I live in Everett but I have Sunday or Monday evenings available as my days off from my graveyard shift. I'm not a doctor nor do I possess any mental health education but I do know how to listen and be a friend. If you're in need and willing I would drive to wherever you are and buy you coffee or dinner, introduce myself and let you get to know me and vice versa. I'm married so don't get any funny ideas but I do care about the people on this forum. Like I said, You are one of the good guys despite our differences.

Let me know if I can help or if you're interested in my offer.

Sincerely,

11B

You are a good man.

When it comes to doctors, don't try to find one that is 2A friendly. Try to find one that you can talk to. My son is going through some issues, and the biggest road block is finding someone he can connect to. Remember I'm just down the street. Our Maine Coon cats can have a play date.

Jagerbomber35 wrote:Honest question. Dont want to derail. Fell free to tell me to get out of here. If you know youre depressed or anxious, or what have you, what gopd does talking to a schrink do? Ive never been but I always thought they more helped diagnose. Sounds like you are aware, isnt that most the battle?

More than diagnose. The obvious thing is prescribing medication to help the brain regain it's chemical balance.
They also can help you find ways to cope with what is getting to you. Ways to deal with that stuff that's getting you down.

Find a good one. Some just say take this pill... even some who straight up tell you there is no such thing as a happy pill. Some will click with you, some won't. If the first doc doesn't seem to be helping, find another.

Unicorn wrote:They also can help you find ways to cope with what is getting to you. Ways to deal with that stuff that's getting you down.

Find a good one. Some just say take this pill... even some who straight up tell you there is no such thing as a happy pill. Some will click with you, some won't. If the first doc doesn't seem to be helping, find another.

I have found that the effectiveness of different counselors varies widely. If you and your needs don't click with them and their methods, then go find another one! My opinion is that a pill is like a temporary crutch; the counseling is teaching long-term coping skills.

kf7mjf wrote:I am concerned about a blacklist and afraid of medication with side effects that could affect my productivity. I'm taking full time classes online and really can't afford a week of no sleep or lethargy or whatever while playing with meds.

You don't need meds. Your future is written in the now, not in the past.

You don't bury the past, but letting the past write your future, lets your step father live on.

You defeat ant destroy him utterly by denying the events of the past the power to shape the narrative of the now.

After a while he turns into an ineffectual little stain on the toilet of life, until when you flush one day, there is nothing left, and you don't even know when that happened.

Fact. It happened a long time ago.

Fact. You could shove your ex-step fathers head up his own ass while feeding the cat, and reading a good book currently.

Fact. He has nearly no power over you.

Fact. Finish him off. Keep talking, live your life, be everything he was not. It will destroy him utterly. Powerless, Impotent.



I left home when I was 14.

I had my reasons, and the biggest one was my own mother, who did not have limits to anger and violence.

Second was my parents divorcing.

Taking sides would have left me at the mercy of one, and the anger of another.

So I left home, took my own life in hand, and started walking as far away from my past as I could.

And, no, it has not been all fucking flowers and bacon, I can tell you, but it has been all mine as best as I can write it on my own.

" That which does not kill you, makes you stronger. " True words, but only if you do the exercise.

You are not alone out here in the world. Saddle up, motherfucker, and ride into the sun. Lots of people are along for the ride.

You know where to find me.

RENCORP wrote:

kf7mjf wrote:I am concerned about a blacklist and afraid of medication with side effects that could affect my productivity. I'm taking full time classes online and really can't afford a week of no sleep or lethargy or whatever while playing with meds.

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Freakin amazing Canadian!

My son was given zoloft, and one of the problems is that it will cause you to get worse before it starts helping. Well, it took him too low and could have ended badly. Try to find an outlet with out meds, but everybody is different. Counseling, and/or meds. Do what you have to do. If you need some trigger therapy I will provide the vehicle, and the pills (ammo). (worked for me when my mom passed.)

Quickie reply. Mobile with nearly dead battery. I'm going to reply individually to the fantastic replies and messages I've gotten when I get home. Really helped a lot reading this. Thanks guys.

There's a lot of great support in this thread, and talking it out does help.

kf7mjf wrote:I am concerned about a blacklist and afraid of medication with side effects that could affect my productivity. I'm taking full time classes online and really can't afford a week of no sleep or lethargy or whatever while playing with meds.

I have just been through this with a close family member and the only time guns came up were to ask if there was any easy access. Once they were informed that guns were secure, all was well. In a post 594 world, the simplest and quickest way if you need to be without gun access for a while, is to give all the ammo to someone for safe keeping.

The only chance of a blacklist (or calling 911) are:
1) they feel you are an immediate risk to yourself or others
2) you get involuntarily committed after an evaluation

Good on you for reaching out to us to look for different options. I've PMed you my cell number, call anytime 24 x 7.

We have been on a roller coaster the last three weeks with three different family members needing serious help. There are many things in this life that we can't deal with alone. I always thought that you had to tough it out, but now I know it is a sign of strength to ask for help.

Do you have a therapist/psychologist?

My experience with psychiatrists so far is that other than a clinical diagnosis and prescription meds, they are little help at treating the underlying issues. Finding a therapist you can talk things through with, and build up some coping skills with, will help you far more in the long run.

kf7mjf wrote:Thanks guys.

When I was five I saw my father pull a gun on my mother.

The asshole she married afterwards was an angry, abusive nut who dishonored the USMC uniform he once wore simply by existing.

The next 12 years of verbal and emotional abuse were bad. The physical abuse made it worse. I can't remember how many times he just shoved me to the ground and started kicking me around. This ended when I got bigger than him, but the physical and mental damage was done by then. I have a more or less pronounced limp on my left side since I was nine. The one time I reached out to CPS in grade school did nothing, and I was bullied into recanting my statements. To this day I loathe CPS because they were supposed to be the last line of defense according to all the propaganda in grade school and nothing ever happened, despite sufficient evidence and warning signs to have triggered an investigation even after I withdrew my statement.

I've talked to a few guys here before having rough times, I just thought I'd be able to keep my own hell locked up, but it's not sane or healthy to do so. Meh. Honestly, my cat has kept me from quitting my job and just living in the woods or something. The bright light is I may be able to soon make a go as a ghost writer which would make me very happy.

The effects of bullying and abuse last for DECADES. This is one of the things I have learned recently, that even though the bullying stops, the emotional torture doesn't.

The most important thing to understand is that everything that happened was because your abusers were emotionally weak assholes who needed to get off by abusing someone else. It doesn't define who you are. I can tell from your posts that you are a strong and smart person, who has a good moral core.

cycle61 wrote:There's a lot of great support in this thread

Once again, y'all are coming through like champs.

ANZAC wrote:The effects of bullying and abuse last for DECADES. This is one of the things I have learned recently, that even though the bullying stops, the emotional torture doesn't.

The most important thing to understand is that everything that happened was because your abusers were emotionally weak assholes who needed to get off by abusing someone else. It doesn't define who you are. I can tell from your posts that you are a strong and smart person, who has a good moral core.

Yeah, scientifically I dig that, I even have a rough idea of how my brain was shaped and molded during those formative years. I think that knowledge has kept me from really getting worse. It still is a hard thing to struggle with sometimes, and society doesn't always do a good job of accepting the mentally damaged. Thank you for the kind words, it's true, the abuser is the asshole, and sometimes too, perpetuating a cycle they knew. At least I broke that chain. I've never been abusive in relationships, and I've spent more than one night on a couch with a shotgun because somebody's abusive ex was coming around.