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glockgirl wrote:Nope. They are sentenced to life without the possibility of parole, saves the taxpayers money (no, seriously, look it up) and gives them them no easy escape--only the prospect of waking up every single day to the same nightmare.

This is a misnomer. The studies that draw that conclusion fail to account for def attorney fees.
When the death penalty is involved, def attorneys raise their rates considerably. This greatly thows off the numbers.
Those studies also fail to account for the fact that they are working with average numbers.
If you survey 5 things vs 50 things...the 50 will almost always come in lower.
The link below contains a NV study....
Death pen...1 to 1.3 million
Non death...775K
Header reads death pen costs up to twice as much.
Stats like that should automatically raise a red flag. They are rounding up....what else did they round up?
Did they always round up, or were they only rounding on the death side?

With that in mind here are some actual studies.
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/costs-death-penalty

Also, saying something is cheaper than something else...means that any case that meets that criteria is "proof"...and anything that is questioned is an "exception to the rule"

This is a classic CJ argument topic...you have to make sure all numbers are calculated and reported accurately.
The state doesn't pay def attorney fees on convictions...so counting those fees towards the total is inaccurate.
Cases should only be compared that have similar prosecution hours used.
When you do that you will find that incarceration is actually higher then death.

if they want to die, let them.

H2obouget wrote:

glockgirl wrote:Nope. They are sentenced to life without the possibility of parole, saves the taxpayers money (no, seriously, look it up) and gives them them no easy escape--only the prospect of waking up every single day to the same nightmare.

This is a misnomer. The studies that draw that conclusion fail to account for def attorney fees.
When the death penalty is involved, def attorneys raise their rates considerably. This greatly thows off the numbers.
Those studies also fail to account for the fact that they are working with average numbers.
If you survey 5 things vs 50 things...the 50 will almost always come in lower.
The link below contains a NV study....
Death pen...1 to 1.3 million
Non death...775K
Header reads death pen costs up to twice as much.
Stats like that should automatically raise a red flag. They are rounding up....what else did they round up?
Did they always round up, or were they only rounding on the death side?

With that in mind here are some actual studies.
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/costs-death-penalty

Also, saying something is cheaper than something else...means that any case that meets that criteria is "proof"...and anything that is questioned is an "exception to the rule"

This is a classic CJ argument topic...you have to make sure all numbers are calculated and reported accurately.
The state doesn't pay def attorney fees on convictions...so counting those fees towards the total is inaccurate.
Cases should only be compared that have similar prosecution hours used.
When you do that you will find that incarceration is actually higher then death.

Im not talking about it like that...

Im saying If after they are found guilty they are allowed to choose themselves... not by courts or anything... it wouldnt cost any money at all.

spikedzombies wrote:so.... i was browsing headlines and everyone knows who Aaron Hernandez is by now right?

He's on suicide watch..

Which got me thinking..

Life without the possibility of Parole.... or the Offender can chose death.. What do you think?

Without a doubt. Give em a syringe of that crap the docs give people that end their lives by choice - assisted "suicide". Just make sure you film their request, have an attorney right an air tight liability release and film them injecting themselves. You don't want to give their family any ammunition to sue.

kf7mjf wrote:I think any person of sound mind should have the right to end their life.

I dunno. Have heard the BLM is planning for that. Besides, who gets to decide what being of sound mind means?

H2obouget wrote:

glockgirl wrote:The state doesn't pay def attorney fees on convictions...so counting those fees towards the total is inaccurate.

True, but only if the defendant can afford an atty. If not, the taxpoopers foot the bill.