Illegal to work on your own car...wtf?

[WaJim]

This is just Un-American....

https://www.yahoo.com/autos/s/gm-ford-o ... 00229.html


American companies like GM, Ford and Chrysler all agree that working on your own vehicle should be punishable by law.


They're liking it to pirating software and music...that's funny shit right there.

[XDM9cWA]

that is the dumbest argument ever just to make a few bucks....

I would literally boycott any car maker that does this...

I know the japanese market would never tolerate it.. and SEMA is not a small group... they will likely fight this..

[Soldier_Citizen]

Fuckers be high!

[MadPick]

American companies like GM, Ford and Chrysler all agree that working on your own vehicle should be punishable by law.

Exaggeration much?!!

They're specifically talking about modifying the onboard computer . . . not the rest of the car. We can argue about the computer issue, but don't make it out to be more than that.

[GeekWithGuns]

laughing out loud... american cars are exactly the ones most likely to require heavy owner maintenance

Used to have a Chevy K5 Blazer. Loved driving it but it's favorite position was in the garage, Blazer on top

[CQBgopher]

The OEM isn't the one to worry about. They can say all they want. Their beef is proprietary software and hacks that allow people to write code in a program that is intellectual property.


EPA is the one who can bring a halt to anyone opening the hood. They are trying as we speak.

[WaJim]

American companies like GM, Ford and Chrysler all agree that working on your own vehicle should be punishable by law.

Exaggeration much?!!

They're specifically talking about modifying the onboard computer . . . not the rest of the car. We can argue about the computer issue, but don't make it out to be more than that.

Yeah, I clipped that from the article....

They can Blow me...all of them.

[Mediumrarechicken]

BMW has the i8 which through engineering has made it impossible for someone to open the hood alone. Basically you need to pull a cap in each door jamb off, pull a wire, then have two people open the hood and line up two holes in the bracket so a screw driver can be inserted. Failure to properly do so could ruin the carbon fiber hood. There were other things that were incredibly difficult to do for how simply it could have been. Look at how much more difficult it has became in the last 20 years for joe blow to work on their own cars, just imagine another 20 years.

[WaJim]

that is the dumbest argument ever just to make a few bucks....

I would literally boycott any car maker that does this...

I know the japanese market would never tolerate it.. and SEMA is not a small group... they will likely fight this..

That's for sure...the Japanese are the base of the Tuner Program. They're the first to screw with factory programming years ago.

[XDM9cWA]

American companies like GM, Ford and Chrysler all agree that working on your own vehicle should be punishable by law.

Exaggeration much?!!

They're specifically talking about modifying the onboard computer . . . not the rest of the car. We can argue about the computer issue, but don't make it out to be more than that.

Imagine if some aftermarket tuner modded some of the flight settings on a 787... to either increase fuel efficiency or boost HP...

that would give a few engineers a huge headache

[AR15L]

Imagine if some aftermarket tuner modded some of the flight toilet settings on a 787... to either increase fuel efficiency or boost HP...

that would give a few engineers Steve a huge headache

fixd

[MadPick]

Don't fuck with the toilets, man.

[bhpdrew]

What if you have a 1932 Ford pick up which they don't supply parts for?
(My case)

[jackass]

Listing the vehicle as a “mobile computing device,” the law would hypothetically protect automakers from pesky owners looking to alter any sort of technology in the vehicle that relates to the onboard computer. Flashing your ECU would be a big no no, which could also lead to all sorts of problems for aftermarket shops.

What GM, and even tractor companies like John Deere, argues is that you, as an owner, don’t actually own your car. Rather, you’re sort of just borrowing it for an extended amount of time and paying for the rights to use the technology. If it sounds ridiculous— it is. But it gets even more ludicrous.

According to the Electronic Frontier Foundation, John Deere argued that “letting people modify car computer systems will result in them pirating music through the on-board entertainment system.”

[Massivedesign]

Listing the vehicle as a “mobile computing device,” the law would hypothetically protect automakers from pesky owners looking to alter any sort of technology in the vehicle that relates to the onboard computer. Flashing your ECU would be a big no no, which could also lead to all sorts of problems for aftermarket shops.

What GM, and even tractor companies like John Deere, argues is that you, as an owner, don’t actually own your car. Rather, you’re sort of just borrowing it for an extended amount of time and paying for the rights to use the technology. If it sounds ridiculous— it is. But it gets even more ludicrous.

According to the Electronic Frontier Foundation, John Deere argued that “letting people modify car computer systems will result in them pirating music through the on-board entertainment system.”