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Site Supporter   Location: Olympia Joined: Mon Oct 6, 2014 Posts: 386 Real Name: Steve 
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kf7mjf wrote: finster wrote: So besides the melting steel does anyone have anything else to criticize? Why world trade center 7 completely collapsed? Why the towers fell at almost free fall speed? Why the engines don't match the planes? As far as a building's beams being melted to the point where the building could free fall.....well that makes no sense unless somehow the fire was able to melt all the steel beams in the building leaving no support to stop the free fall. Here are some other large building fires that didn't melt steel beams and cause complete collapse: http://www.serendipity.li/wot/other_fires/other_fires.htm Attachment: shanghai_apartment_1_1.jpg http://architecture.about.com/od/disast ... erfall.htm An about.com article? Sorry this still doesn't explain how the stories below the planes suffered so much damage from fire to collapse the way that they did. The pancake theory they provide as explanation doesn't make any sense as 70+ stories of steel beam building do not just give way. How did jet fuel get to all the steel beams in order to weaken them enough to collapse in the way they did? None of this makes any sense. Why did wtc 7 collapse in the same way yet it wasn't hit by a plane? |
| Mon Apr 27, 2015 8:35 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: Olympia Joined: Sat Oct 29, 2011 Posts: 16026 Real Name: Steve
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Look at the much more complex link it sources too.
Also, seriously. It's 2015. This shit has been debunked so many times, it's tiring to hear the tinfoil crowd just repeating the same shit over and over because science and video footage is hard. _________________ "I won't insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said." - William Buckley, Jr. "...steam, artillery and revolvers give to civilized man an irresistible power." -Perry Collins |
| Mon Apr 27, 2015 8:41 am |
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Site Supporter Location: Olympia Joined: Mon Oct 6, 2014 Posts: 386 Real Name: Steve
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kf7mjf wrote: Look at the much more complex link it sources too. Also, seriously. It's 2015. This shit has been debunked so many times, it's tiring to hear the tinfoil crowd just repeating the same shit over and over because science and video footage is hard. Debunked by who? A government panel? A government funded institute? Popular Mechanics which is a Hearst owned publication? Hearst while not living invented "yellow journalism." You still won't try to answer questions about wtc 7 and how it collapsed in the same manner without being hit by a plane. Or why different engines were found on the scene? Or any of the other inconsistencies in the official 9/11 story. You keep acting as if anyone who believes these things are crazy or abnormal yet polls show otherwise: http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/09/poll-more-americans-believe-world-trade-center-7-was-demolished-on-911-than-believe-the-governments-explanation.html |
| Mon Apr 27, 2015 9:14 am |
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Site Moderator   Location: Marysville Joined: Thu Mar 22, 2012 Posts: 13844 Real Name: Mike
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So much time in the day, so little to do with it
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| Mon Apr 27, 2015 9:26 am |
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Site Supporter Location: Olympia Joined: Sat Oct 29, 2011 Posts: 16026 Real Name: Steve
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Because I'm too fucking lazy to wade through amateur hour truther websites to even figure out what the hell you are babbling about. As for your poll, you can go to places and poll a majority who think evolution is fake too.
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| Mon Apr 27, 2015 9:27 am |
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In Memoriam  Location: Graham Joined: Sun Sep 4, 2011 Posts: 2220
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It's how a coverup succeeds.
Tell a story. Have experts declare the story to be plausible and rational. Carry the story to the masses. Now anyone who doesn't agree with the story is a conspiracy theorist and irrational. No matter what they say. If these irrational people remember information from when the story played out, it's made up. The "facts" in the revisionist history files says something else. And only the revisionist copy can be true. See it's tangible...right here. Did you people not read 1984? Remember what Winston's job was? If you distrust the government, then I would think that by default you should be questioning every "conspiracy theory" out there. _________________ What is a Waterbouget? It is that yellow thing in the middle, below my user name. |
| Mon Apr 27, 2015 9:50 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: East of Japan, not by much. Joined: Fri Jun 3, 2011 Posts: 13009
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kjy7af -
Touchy little guy lately, aintchya ? Why don't you just let other people's opinions and research stand or not. You don't have to agree, and some times you come off looking like a totally unreasonable person for taking a hard line opposite view - for what ? The truth is probably a higher percentage of alternative to government media speak. After all, these are the same people who a-bombed the living rat fuck out of the Pacific, the American Southwest, and other sites without really thinking about the consequences. Then, they covered up the results for decades. CIA LSD experimentation, anyone ? I'll bet the participants were believed to be nutters by all for decades after their overlords dosed them for free for years on end in some cases. Bombs and wars for oil ? Thanks for the memories, all you Middle East countries. Save the CIA heroin revenue pipeline ? Way to go, Afghanistan. Real Americans question the " Truth " as spoken by government. Why ? So the country continues to be the only beacon of democratic hope in the world, despite the best efforts of some truly evil people to the contrary. " The price of Liberty is eternal vigilance. " So, lighten up a bit, willya ? _________________ Give a man a fish, and he will eat for a day. Give a man a fishing pole, and he will drink too much beer, get tangled in fish line, hook himself in the nose casting, fall overboard, and either drown, or, go home hungry and wet. Give a man a case of dynamite, and he will feed the whole town for a year! BE ON NOTICE: PRIVACY NOTICE: Warning - any person and/or institution and/or Agent and/or Agency of any governmental structure including but not limited to the United States Federal Government also using or monitoring/using this website or any of its associated websites, you do NOT have my permission to utilize any of my profile information nor any of the content contained herein including, but not limited to my photos, and/or the comments made about my photos or any other "picture" art posted on my profile. You are hereby notified that you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing, disseminating, or taking any other action against me with regard to this profile and the contents herein. The foregoing prohibitions also apply to your employee, agent, student or any personnel under your direction or control. The contents of this profile are PRIVATE and legally privileged and confidential information, and the violation of my personal privacy is punishable by law. UCC 1-103 1-308 ALL RIGHTS RESERVED WITHOUT PREJUDICE |
| Mon Apr 27, 2015 9:57 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: Lynnwood Joined: Thu Dec 6, 2012 Posts: 5443 Real Name: Sergey
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I am curious what the official story on #7 is.
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| Mon Apr 27, 2015 7:21 pm |
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 Site Moderator  Location: Olympia, Warshington. Joined: Fri May 27, 2011 Posts: 12527 Real Name: Oly Damon
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Rusoarmo wrote: I am curious what the official story on #7 is. The "official" story is what it was a massive blaze from Ikea office furniture.... and it fell down on itself. I'd like to know what the "unofficial" story is.... I gave up long ago. I did go see Richard Gage a few years back when he spoke in Seattle. But you know, all that physics and science stuff is no match for blind obedience to the official story. It's been retold so long people probably actually believe Purple Elephant Monkeys did it. |
| Mon Apr 27, 2015 8:23 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: Olympia Joined: Sat Oct 29, 2011 Posts: 16026 Real Name: Steve
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_________________ "I won't insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said." - William Buckley, Jr. "...steam, artillery and revolvers give to civilized man an irresistible power." -Perry Collins |
| Mon Apr 27, 2015 9:23 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: Olympia Joined: Sat Oct 29, 2011 Posts: 16026 Real Name: Steve
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H2obouget wrote: It's how a coverup succeeds. Tell a story. Have experts declare the story to be plausible and rational. Carry the story to the masses. Now anyone who doesn't agree with the story is a conspiracy theorist and irrational. No matter what they say. If these irrational people remember information from when the story played out, it's made up. The "facts" in the revisionist history files says something else. And only the revisionist copy can be true. See it's tangible...right here. Did you people not read 1984? Remember what Winston's job was? If you distrust the government, then I would think that by default you should be questioning every "conspiracy theory" out there. "If somebody says there is a conspiracy and you don't believe that conspiracy, because you accept different events, it's proof the conspiracy is real, because if it wasn't there wouldn't be opposition to the conspiracy, thus it's real, and by not believing it, you are less enlightened than anyone who believes the conspiracy, because conspiracies are real, because if they weren't we wouldn't be discussing them, and dissent is proof of reality, because enlightened thinking separates the elite few who believe this, from the dumbed down masses, who have doubleplusgood thinks." FTFY _________________ "I won't insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said." - William Buckley, Jr. "...steam, artillery and revolvers give to civilized man an irresistible power." -Perry Collins |
| Mon Apr 27, 2015 9:25 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: Airway heights Joined: Sun Mar 20, 2011 Posts: 12198 Real Name: Michael
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I think at the end of this thread everyone will agree
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| Mon Apr 27, 2015 9:26 pm |
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Site Moderator Location: Olympia, Warshington. Joined: Fri May 27, 2011 Posts: 12527 Real Name: Oly Damon
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mash man wrote: I think at the end of this thread everyone will agree I agree... Wait, Not yet.... I don't agree....  |
| Mon Apr 27, 2015 9:37 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: Olympia Joined: Mon Oct 6, 2014 Posts: 386 Real Name: Steve
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This is a good video of the collapse of wtc 7 from many different sources. Those darn cheap steel buildings always collapse at once and at free fall speed too lol. It's amazing how all the world trade centers collapsed so easily due to fire when this didn't happen to other buildings in similar scenarios. The Windsor building fire in Madrid Spain burned for almost 24 hours yet didn't collapse. I guess we just fail at building?
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| Mon Apr 27, 2015 10:25 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: Olympia Joined: Sat Oct 29, 2011 Posts: 16026 Real Name: Steve
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Huh. It's like different buildings are built different ways, and sometimes they don't always have airplanes crashing into them either...
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