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finster
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STED9R wrote: Actually, would love to shoot the idiots that caused me to lose over $11k in WAMU stocks.....but that would mean those in charge of the bank and market, and all those that mortgaged themselves into bankruptcy. I'm really sour on that but, what's been going on with that in the past few months, I may be able to get a small portion back. Thread derailed yet? Or you could blame the owners of Chase who set the rumors out there that wamu was insolvent so they could buy it with free government money for pennies on the dollar......that's looting billions with our money. Didn't mean to derail just show that there are other larger property crimes which I don't hear people calling for capital punishment.
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TechnoWeenie
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danoh
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WaMu did themseleve's with no help from anyone.
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snozzberries
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I watched the video of the prosecutor. She appeared very angry and strong-willed. I congratulate her on doing her job.
I just wish during her speech she had mentioned one other thing. She was speaking along the lines of "all people of this city will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, regardless of their occupation." She should have added "Just as my office is vigilantly prosecuting these officers, so shall we prosecute those that have committed arson; burning down buildings and vehicles. We shall also prosecute those that have committed violence, rioting, and looting in the past days. All of you are next on my list, I'll be seeing you shortly."
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finster
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danoh wrote: WaMu did themseleve's with no help from anyone. They were all holding the same toxic debt but wamu was the new kid on the block. The old money New York banks left wamu hanging and started the rumor mill going about how toxic wamu's debt was even though the other banks debt was just as bad if not worse. Hank Paulson and Goldman Sachs invented the cdo market yet they were the only investment bank left standing besides Morgan Stanley who then bought out wamu for pennies on the dollar. They won't teach it in history books but I believe it's what actually happened. It's hard to prove the source of rumors.....they are rumors after all but the motive and opportunity were definitely there for the other banks. http://www.seattletimes.com/business/wamu-conspiracy-theories-abound-but-theres-no-smoking-gun/
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TechnoWeenie
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snozzberries wrote: I watched the video of the prosecutor. She appeared very angry and strong-willed. I congratulate her on doing her job.
I just wish during her speech she had mentioned one other thing. She was speaking along the lines of "all people of this city will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, regardless of their occupation." She should have added "Just as my office is vigilantly prosecuting these officers, so shall we prosecute those that have committed arson; burning down buildings and vehicles. We shall also prosecute those that have committed violence, rioting, and looting in the past days. All of you are next on my list, I'll be seeing you shortly." Persecute or prosecute?
_________________NO DISASSEMBLE!Thomas Paine wrote: "He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself."
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snozzberries
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TechnoWeenie wrote: snozzberries wrote: I watched the video of the prosecutor. She appeared very angry and strong-willed. I congratulate her on doing her job.
I just wish during her speech she had mentioned one other thing. She was speaking along the lines of "all people of this city will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, regardless of their occupation." She should have added "Just as my office is vigilantly prosecuting these officers, so shall we prosecute those that have committed arson; burning down buildings and vehicles. We shall also prosecute those that have committed violence, rioting, and looting in the past days. All of you are next on my list, I'll be seeing you shortly." Persecute or prosecute? persecute [ ˈpərsəˌkyo͞ot ] VERB subject (someone) to hostility and ill-treatment, especially because of their race or political or religious beliefs That definition doesn't apply to anything I said or anything that's going on, so I would say prosecute, and not persecute.
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TechnoWeenie
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snozzberries wrote: TechnoWeenie wrote: snozzberries wrote: I watched the video of the prosecutor. She appeared very angry and strong-willed. I congratulate her on doing her job.
I just wish during her speech she had mentioned one other thing. She was speaking along the lines of "all people of this city will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, regardless of their occupation." She should have added "Just as my office is vigilantly prosecuting these officers, so shall we prosecute those that have committed arson; burning down buildings and vehicles. We shall also prosecute those that have committed violence, rioting, and looting in the past days. All of you are next on my list, I'll be seeing you shortly." Persecute or prosecute? persecute [ ˈpərsəˌkyo͞ot ] VERB subject (someone) to hostility and ill-treatment, especially because of their race or political or religious beliefs That definition doesn't apply to anything I said or anything that's going on, so I would say prosecute, and not persecute. So, driving a vehicle away after someone puts a prisoner in your rig = manslaughter? Opening the back of the transport unit, and closing it again, and not calling for medics, is assault, and manslaughter?
_________________NO DISASSEMBLE!Thomas Paine wrote: "He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself."
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kf7mjf
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In this case, and under these circumstances, apparently, yes.
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finster
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CNN reporter denies that this man was beaten by police. I guess she's right the police just dragged him face down while they let the ground do the dirty work. https://twitter.com/deray/status/594895836598800384?s=09
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aes0p
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H2obouget wrote: Cop safety, rioter's safety, civilian safety, then all the property in the same order.
Bottom line...sucks to be a civilian in that mess. The so called rioters are civilians too.
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aes0p
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TechnoWeenie wrote: snozzberries wrote: TechnoWeenie wrote: snozzberries wrote: I watched the video of the prosecutor. She appeared very angry and strong-willed. I congratulate her on doing her job.
I just wish during her speech she had mentioned one other thing. She was speaking along the lines of "all people of this city will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, regardless of their occupation." She should have added "Just as my office is vigilantly prosecuting these officers, so shall we prosecute those that have committed arson; burning down buildings and vehicles. We shall also prosecute those that have committed violence, rioting, and looting in the past days. All of you are next on my list, I'll be seeing you shortly." Persecute or prosecute? persecute [ ˈpərsəˌkyo͞ot ] VERB subject (someone) to hostility and ill-treatment, especially because of their race or political or religious beliefs That definition doesn't apply to anything I said or anything that's going on, so I would say prosecute, and not persecute. So, driving a vehicle away after someone puts a prisoner in your rig = manslaughter? Opening the back of the transport unit, and closing it again, and not calling for medics, is assault, and manslaughter? Committing criminal acts that lead to the death of another = manslaughter.
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kf7mjf
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aes0p wrote: H2obouget wrote: Cop safety, rioter's safety, civilian safety, then all the property in the same order.
Bottom line...sucks to be a civilian in that mess. The so called rioters are civilians too. *citizen
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aes0p
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wklink wrote: cycle61 wrote: TechnoWeenie wrote: Free food, free housing, preferential hiring practices, preferential school and testing placement, etc isn't enough? Life in the ghetto isn't really as glamorous as you make it sound. I'm not justifying the actions in Baltimore. But I'm pointing out that they don't happen in a vacuum. I get so sick of this 'root causes' bullshit. You want to know the root causes of all of this violence? It is the state of perpetual victimhood that has been shoved down the throats of African Americans by the leadership of the Civil Rights Movement. Once these same 'leaders' realized that they could make a nice living off of the movement they were involved with the Civil Rights Movement was doomed. There is no reason to ever end it, too much money is at stake. So guys like Sharpton and Jackson whip up resentment and turn idiots and thugs like Martin and Brown and Gray into martyred heroes. This does nothing to help the cause of African Americans in in all honesty hurts the case of anyone looking to end that racism. Almost every negative stereotype of African Americans can be summed up with those three individuals. No human being is perfect and no one truly deserves to die but if you are going to hold someone as an innocent then they should be at least someone you would want to have over to your house. None of these guys would be allowed within 100 yards of Sharpton's house, much less in it. You want to know the causes of all of this, it is the very people that are now claiming victimhood. At one time the actions of the civil rights movement was righteous and noble and the sight of violence perpetrated against the freedom riders shocked and shamed White America and rallied them to the cause. What you see now is that same movement creating fear and resentment among those very same middle class white people. It is difficult to create sympathy when your tactic is to make yourself look as distasteful as possible. Anyone who has been educated to the true nature of racism will understand that your words here are more racist than calling someone n*****. Racism is a system that was intentionally manufactured by colonial powers beginning in the sixteenth century. These days, the racist mantra is almost word for word what you've written here. I'm guessing you're aware of that in the deep recesses of your mind, but you've chosen to ignore that and double down, because it's easier than confronting the truth of what racism REALLY means. I hope some day you make the decision the learn something real about the history of racism, beginning with slavery, genocide, and anthropology which began in the early 16th century. Also, your words about Rev Sharpton are complete lies. Notice how any black leaders in America have either been murdered or been the victim of propaganda with no basis. The fact is, Sharpton has spent lots of time in very poor neighborhoods doing outreach. He does indeed involve himself with people you'd surely call thugs (in ten years, everyone will see this word for the racist pejorative it is). In fact, I challenge you to produce any evidence of Al Sharpton acting aloof toward African Americans in the manner you've purported, but I won't hold my breath. Consider yourself called out.
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