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LadyShooter
Location: Olympia, WA Joined: Fri May 1, 2015 Posts: 141
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Um, re: Wells Fargo.. quoted from the article posted in the start of this thread..
Vice President of Business Banking at Wells Fargo, called Friday Nov 2nd to alert Mr. Maddox, owner of BMADDOX ENTERPRISES, that Wells Fargo would not extend business credit or loans to any firearms related business, period.“Your credit is impeccable and your business model is sound, but our corporate legal department will not allow us to extend credit to any business related to firearms. We understand you are fully licensed under federal and state law, although…the corporate directive is still no.”"
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| Wed May 06, 2015 3:47 pm |
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H2obouget
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Location: Graham Joined: Sun Sep 4, 2011 Posts: 2220
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This is all coming from a mandate from on high from the FDIC. Firearms sales were classified as "Risky Investments" a few years ago. http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volo ... oke-point/http://www.bizzyblog.com/2014/05/02/est ... oke-point/Quote: The FDIC’s list of 30 high-risk merchant categories that are currently being pursued by the DOJ.
Ammunition Sales Cable Box De-scramblers Coin Dealers Credit Card Schemes Credit Repair Services Dating Services Debt Consolidation Scams Drug Paraphernalia Escort Services Firearms Sales Fireworks Sales Get Rich Products Government Grants Home-Based Charities Life-Time Guarantees Life-Time Memberships Lottery Sales Mailing Lists/Personal Info Money Transfer Networks On-line Gambling PayDay Loans Pharmaceutical Sales Ponzi Schemes Pornography Pyramid-Type Sales Racist Materials Surveillance Equipment Telemarketing Tobacco Sales Travel Clubs So basically, the government has stepped in and said that, while these industries make HUGE amounts of money....we're going to put hurdles in their way because they MIGHT BE used for illegal means. I find the following list very interesting especially the bolded ones: Ammunition Sales - Government Regulated Coin Dealers Credit Repair Services Dating Services Drug Paraphernalia Escort Services Firearms Sales - Government Regulated Fireworks Sales Government Grants - Government Funded Home-Based Charities Life-Time Guarantees Life-Time MembershipsLottery Sales - Government Funded Money Transfer Networks On-line Gambling PayDay Loans Pharmaceutical Sales - Government Funded Pornography Surveillance Equipment - Government Funded Tobacco Sales
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| Wed May 06, 2015 4:05 pm |
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LadyShooter
Location: Olympia, WA Joined: Fri May 1, 2015 Posts: 141
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All I can say is... Wow.
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| Wed May 06, 2015 6:35 pm |
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Pablo
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Location: Everson, WA Joined: Sun Jan 6, 2013 Posts: 28461
Real Name: Ace Winky
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It boggles my mind some people have not heard of Operation Choke point. I mean I know libs have not heard of it, but gun owners???? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Choke_Pointhttp://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/03 ... operation/Obama yay!!!!!
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| Wed May 06, 2015 7:11 pm |
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LadyShooter
Location: Olympia, WA Joined: Fri May 1, 2015 Posts: 141
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Sorry, I'm a new gun owner.
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| Wed May 06, 2015 7:13 pm |
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Pablo
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Location: Everson, WA Joined: Sun Jan 6, 2013 Posts: 28461
Real Name: Ace Winky
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LadyShooter wrote: Sorry, I'm a new gun owner. No need to apologize. My comment was not directed at you.........actually more toward many, many gun owners who profess to be politically active. WE SHOULD BE STINKING LIVID AS AMERICANS ABOUT SUCH ABUSES OF POWER!! Terrible, terrible thing really.
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| Wed May 06, 2015 7:17 pm |
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Eagle Chaplain
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Location: England Joined: Wed Apr 29, 2015 Posts: 2953
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Pablo wrote: LadyShooter wrote: Sorry, I'm a new gun owner. No need to apologize. My comment was not directed at you.........actually more toward many, many gun owners who profess to be politically active. WE SHOULD BE STINKING LIVID AS AMERICANS ABOUT SUCH ABUSES OF POWER!! Terrible, terrible thing really. I am looking forward to being more politically active when I get back to Washington this Summer. I was dumb founded when this first started. Unfortunately I see the new Attorney General continuing down this path.
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| Wed May 06, 2015 7:27 pm |
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H2obouget
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Location: Graham Joined: Sun Sep 4, 2011 Posts: 2220
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Sorry...didn't mean for that to derail the thread.
Anyone got a Bank or Credit Union that is 2A Business Friendly?
Anyone know about Timberline, Heritage, or Columbia banks?
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| Wed May 06, 2015 7:44 pm |
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joao01
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Location: Midwest Joined: Thu Oct 2, 2014 Posts: 8695
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I would think if possible, it would be wise to find a large bank that is less likely to be bought out by another and possibly have the T&Cs change on you.
USAA or Navy Federal I would think would probably work with you, but I don't know for sure. Navy Federal has a branch near Graham, and USAA doesn't really have any branches.
USAA is probably easier to qualify for. Even if you were not military, you are probably elligible if anyone in your family was.
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| Thu May 07, 2015 6:10 am |
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Oleman
Location: Eastside Joined: Sat Jun 2, 2012 Posts: 1074
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DMS Arms wrote: I'm serious about this question. A bank who I have been using for the past 4 years just told me that their underwriters will not lend to a business in an "Undesirable" industry. "It would not look good in their portfolio" If anyone knows of a bank local, regional or national that supports us, please post or PM me with that information. Obomba operation choke point. I thought these ass holes said they were going to stop this?
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| Thu May 07, 2015 7:55 am |
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Eagle Chaplain
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Location: England Joined: Wed Apr 29, 2015 Posts: 2953
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Oleman wrote: DMS Arms wrote: I'm serious about this question. A bank who I have been using for the past 4 years just told me that their underwriters will not lend to a business in an "Undesirable" industry. "It would not look good in their portfolio" If anyone knows of a bank local, regional or national that supports us, please post or PM me with that information. Obomba operation choke point. I thought these ass holes said they were going to stop this? You actually believed a politician would do what they said?? 
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| Thu May 07, 2015 8:04 am |
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H2obouget
In Memoriam
Location: Graham Joined: Sun Sep 4, 2011 Posts: 2220
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Oleman wrote: DMS Arms wrote: I'm serious about this question. A bank who I have been using for the past 4 years just told me that their underwriters will not lend to a business in an "Undesirable" industry. "It would not look good in their portfolio" If anyone knows of a bank local, regional or national that supports us, please post or PM me with that information. Obomba operation choke point. I thought these ass holes said they were going to stop this? Just because the Feds stopped, doesn't mean that the banks bothered to change the policies they created to be in compliance.
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| Thu May 07, 2015 8:17 am |
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tigershark
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Location: Stanwood, WA Joined: Tue Mar 5, 2013 Posts: 290
Real Name: Mike Williamson
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Take this for what it's worth. I heard about this awhile ago. FDIC is backing off on "Operation Choke Point". http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volo ... oke-point/This was also referenced by my banker.
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| Fri May 08, 2015 1:46 pm |
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dogfish
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Location: McCleary Joined: Fri Mar 7, 2014 Posts: 2003
Real Name: Andy
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Banker/ commercial lender here. I bank one firearms manufacturer and a gun store. Happy to bank more shooting related companies.
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| Fri May 08, 2015 3:53 pm |
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os2firefox
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Location: Idaho (pending) Joined: Sat Aug 4, 2012 Posts: 2825
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I recall there was a large gun related business that was dropped by their bank because they were in a undesirable business. They ended up creating their own bank that will serve other business in the firearms industry.
Edit - nvm, it was just a cc processing system
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