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Initiative 735 - Thoughts?
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Benja455
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http://www.wamend.org/initiativelanguagehttps://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/w ... 1430448529Quote: An Act Relating to the influence of corporations and money in our political system; and creating new section. BE IT ENACTED BY THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF WASHINGTON: New Section. Sec. 1. INTENT This act declares that the people of Washington State support amending The Constitution of the United States to eliminate the undue influence of concentrated money and political power on elections and governmental policy. The amendment would overturn decisions by the Supreme Court of the United States extending constitutional rights to corporations and other artificial legal entities as well as those decisions equating the spending of money with free speech. It also provides for the regulation and disclosure of political contributions and spending. New Section. Sec. 2. FINDINGS 1. Free and fair elections, as well as honest representation, are essential to self- determination and self-governance as described in The Declaration of Independence and established in The Constitution of the United States. 2. The American people have lost faith in the political process because their voices are not heard and their interests are not represented. Thus, an ever smaller percentage of Americans is motivated to vote. 3. The U.S. Constitution makes no mention of corporations or other artificial entities; there are no provisions extending rights to such entities. However, through a series of decisions equating a “corporation” with a “person,” the U.S. Supreme Court extended to corporations the constitutional rights and protections intended for people only. 4. Unlike human beings, corporations can exist in perpetuity and in many countries at the same time. As a result many large corporations, both foreign and domestic, invest in campaigns to invalidate or bypass regulatory law intended to protect the public. Thus, corporate participation in the political process often conflicts with the public interest. 5. Money is property; it is not speech. Nowhere in the U.S. Constitution is money equated with speech. Because advertising is limited and costly, equating the spending of money with free speech gives those with the most money the most speech. 6. Whenever special interests, including very wealthy individuals, are able to spend unlimited amounts of money on political speech, candidates and officeholders can be corrupted and intimidated, and the free speech of most citizens is drowned out and denied. Monopolizingpublicspeechneitherpromotesnorprotectsfreespeech. 7. Anonymous contributions and spending for political gain promote dishonesty and corruption, preventing voters from assessing the motives of the speaker. The public must be able to hold funders of political speech accountable when their messages prove false or misleading. Full and prompt disclosure of funding sources is essential to an informed electorate, fair elections, and effective governance. 8. Article V of the U.S. Constitution empowers the people and the states to use the amendment process to correct egregious decisions by the U.S. Supreme Court that subvert our representative government.  New Section. Sec. 3. POLICY & PROMOTION The voters of the State of Washington urge immediate action by the current and future Washington State congressional delegations to propose a joint resolution for an amendment to The Constitution of the United States clarifying that: 1. The rights listed and acknowledged in The Constitution of the United States are the rights of individual human beings only. 2. The judiciary shall not construe the spending of money to be free speech under the First Amendment of The Constitution of the United States. Federal, state, and local governments shall be fully empowered to regulate political contributions and expenditures to ensure that no person or artificial legal entity gains undue influence over government and the political process. 3. All political contributions and expenditures shall be disclosed promptly and in a manner accessible to voters prior to elections. 4. This act does not limit the people’s rights to freedom of speech, freedom of the press, free exercise of religion, or freedom of association. New Section. Sec. 4. RECOMMENDATION TO CONGRESS In accordance with the U.S. Constitution, the voters of the State of Washington urge the Washington state congressional delegation, and the U.S. Congress generally, to include an amendment ratification method which will best ensure that the people are heard and represented during the ratification process. New Section. Sec. 5. RECOMMENDATION TO STATE LEGISLATURE The voters of the State of Washington urge our current and future Washington state legislatures to ratify such an amendment when passed by Congress and delivered to the states for ratification. New Section. Sec. 6. DIRECTION TO SECRETARY OF STATE The Washington Secretary of State is authorized and directed to immediately deliver copies of this initiative, when enacted, to the following persons: the governor of the State of Washington, all current members of the Washington State legislature, all current members of the United States Congress, and the president of the United States. New Section. Sec. 7. CONSTRUCTION. The provisions of this act are to be liberally construed to effectuate the intent, policies, and purposes of this act. New Section. Sec. 8. SEVERABILITY. If any provision of this act or its application to any person, entity, or circumstance is held invalid, the remainder of the act or the application of the provision to other persons, artificial legal entities, or circumstances is not affected. New Section. Sec. 9. MISCELLANEOUS. This act is known and may be cited as the “Government of, by, and for the People Act.” I'm intrigued by I-735 because it's being supported by some of the same folks who used Bloomberg/Gates money to railroad 594 through the last election. Thoughts?
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RENCORP
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| Thu May 07, 2015 2:41 pm |
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H2obouget
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In general, I like it. Though I think that they should have added the idea that corporations spending money on lobbyists, or direct kickbacks to congressmen should also be blocked.
The irony of the matter is that to get it passed, the current laws allow for corporations to speak out against it. Which just further supports the premise of the argument.
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| Thu May 07, 2015 3:11 pm |
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Classic
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More money is spent on elections than any one person will make in a lifetime. They should be limited to 3 million tops! Whoever is pushing this believes their party is more willing to pay up and "outspend" the other. Bad thing IMHO
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| Thu May 07, 2015 4:25 pm |
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edogg
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Sounds like state law trying to overrule federal law. I don't know how this could stand.
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| Fri May 08, 2015 6:01 am |
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joao01
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What do we not see? In order to amend the constitution we either need a Constitutional Convention or 2/3 majority of the National Legislature if memory serves.
If we get a constitutional convention, any idea what Amendment that comes after the 1st they might try to do away with?
I'm concerned about what is unseen.
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| Fri May 08, 2015 7:12 am |
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A Null
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state initiative overturning the supreme court? Um. How?
I know 'corporations as people' is bad is a common meme these days but do you really want corporations with no 'rights'? If so you realize that means the gov't could wiretap all corps at will, 'take' their assets for no reason(or a lame one) ....and other nasty things I can't quite think of right now.
A corporation is a bunch of people pooling their assets and quite often hiring a manager to manage them. I'm in agreement some aspect of this arrangement have gotten out of hand but if you want corporate $$ out of politics, stop giving politicians so much power.
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