Racial unrest, end game?

[H2obouget]

I look at the news and I see the push for racial unrest to happen.
I keep asking myself...why? What would be the end game?

Tonight I had a bit of an epiphany.
If there were mass racial unrest, we can be certain that at some point firearms would play a significant part.
Could the end game of such riots be the mass door-to-door confiscation of firearms?

You know...for everyones safety.
All civilian firearms need to be collected to stop needless deaths. And, if the people are all disarmed..police officers would be safer and less likely to resort to their firearms to stop people. Everyone benefits and the world is safer.

The easiest way to get the laws you want is to create a world where the people ask for the laws to be made, or at least support their creation.

Let keep it civil and on topic please.
If you feel the need to take pot shots at others...don't post.

[jim_dandy]

If there were mass racial unrest, we can be certain that at some point firearms would play a significant part.

In all seriousness, depending on how any riots go, it's possible it would actually increase support for firearms for personal defense.

Look at what happens when people riot - it shows the police really can't do much to protect you, especially when they're specifically ordered to let them work out their anger on your part of town.

[powder]

Not just can't do anything, won't do anything. They stood around their police HQ and were told to stand down.

[jim_dandy]

Not just can't do anything, won't do anything. They stood around their police HQ and were told to stand down.

Even better point. It's worse they were told to leave them defenseless.

[TechnoWeenie]

I look at the news and I see the push for racial unrest to happen.
I keep asking myself...why? What would be the end game?

Tonight I had a bit of an epiphany.
If there were mass racial unrest, we can be certain that at some point firearms would play a significant part.
Could the end game of such riots be the mass door-to-door confiscation of firearms?

You know...for everyones safety.
All civilian firearms need to be collected to stop needless deaths. And, if the people are all disarmed..police officers would be safer and less likely to resort to their firearms to stop people. Everyone benefits and the world is safer.

The easiest way to get the laws you want is to create a world where the people ask for the laws to be made, or at least support their creation.

Let keep it civil and on topic please.
If you feel the need to take pot shots at others...don't post.

Shoot one or two, the rest will scatter, gives you time to unass the AO.

[usrifle]

There already is racial unrest.
Perpetrated by those who choose to use either power, religion, politics, or personal agenda's
By whom?
You choose, there are plenty of options.

[Classic]

There already is racial unrest.
Perpetrated by those who choose to use either power, religion, politics, or personal agenda's
By whom?
You choose, there are plenty of options.

Obammy, Not so Sharpton, show me da money Jackson.........................

[Mr. Q]

Tonight I had a bit of an epiphany.
If there were mass racial unrest, we can be certain that at some point firearms would play a significant part.
Could the end game of such riots be the mass door-to-door confiscation of firearms?

You know...for everyones safety.
All civilian firearms need to be collected to stop needless deaths. And, if the people are all disarmed..police officers would be safer and less likely to resort to their firearms to stop people. Everyone benefits and the world is safer.

"According to the Geneva-based Small Arms Survey – the leading source of international public information about firearms – the U.S. has the best-armed civilian population in the world, with an estimated 270 million total guns. That’s an average of 89 firearms for every 100 residents...."
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/03/19/how-many-people-own-guns-in-america-and-is-gun-ownership-actually-declining/

uh, no way. door to door confiscation of firearms? you are outside your mind dude, that'll never won't happen.
race baiting, in my opinion, was never really meant for anything other than to divide this country and allow the rich to get richer and the poor to get poorer. my tin foil hat theory has to do with the accumulation of wealth and power versus anything else. the war on guns? it's so the general population does not have the ability to take over by force. top 0.1% richest people in the united states doing what they do best, pull the strings....it's their America, we just live in it.

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[Classic]

PRICELESS!!!

[DSynger]

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[H2obouget]

Tonight I had a bit of an epiphany.
If there were mass racial unrest, we can be certain that at some point firearms would play a significant part.
Could the end game of such riots be the mass door-to-door confiscation of firearms?

You know...for everyones safety.
All civilian firearms need to be collected to stop needless deaths. And, if the people are all disarmed..police officers would be safer and less likely to resort to their firearms to stop people. Everyone benefits and the world is safer.

"According to the Geneva-based Small Arms Survey – the leading source of international public information about firearms – the U.S. has the best-armed civilian population in the world, with an estimated 270 million total guns. That’s an average of 89 firearms for every 100 residents...."
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/03/19/how-many-people-own-guns-in-america-and-is-gun-ownership-actually-declining/

uh, no way. door to door confiscation of firearms? you are outside your mind dude, that'll never won't happen.
race baiting, in my opinion, was never really meant for anything other than to divide this country and allow the rich to get richer and the poor to get poorer. my tin foil hat theory has to do with the accumulation of wealth and power versus anything else. the war on guns? it's so the general population does not have the ability to take over by force. top 0.1% richest people in the united states doing what they do best, pull the strings....it's their America, we just live in it.

This is a valid point. However, race baiting doesn't make the rich richer. The rich don't really gain anything from riots.

Here is what I am thinking:
Riots break out, grow in scale. Sooner or later people start using firearms for self-defense of their property or persons.
The "Bad apples" in the riot crowds arm themselves and shoot back. The police try to step in, they get shot at. Businesses and cars are robbed at gun point.
The gangs declare open season on cops and armed targets. As a result, more innocents are killed as well.
We end up with months of some extremely high firearm death rates.
The media of course would play this to the full hilt.

Some politician comes along and says, "we need to do something.... we need to get ALL guns off the streets, and the only way to do this is to enact a full confiscation of all firearms. "
2A supports go nuts at the thought.
In typical knee-jerk reaction some super left congressman drafts an Amendment revoking the 2nd. "This archaic policy has got to go...it's allowed this blood shed to happen."
Racial spokesmen are all for it if it means that it save racial lives.
And if we have a left-leaning President....it gets Presidential support.
And in typical lock step fashion, congress passes it.
The government starts a program to reward people who turn in gun owners. "See a gun, Report it, get a $1000 reward"
Gun owners only comprise about 30% of the US population...you don't think that the other 70% would be jumping at the chance to make some money?

I am not sure that it would take all the much to make this kind of jump.
One school shooting caused congress to almost ban the AR15, high cap mags, and several other things.
DHS has gone out of their way to engrain the population with their "See something, Say something" program.

What would politicians do if the nation-wide firearm murder rate suddenly doubled across the USA?
From 3.5 per 100K on average or 11,208 per year (http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/homicide.htm)
To 7 per 100K or 22,416 people per year

They would go nuts on gun control, that's what they would do.

[joao01]

Some politician comes along and says, "we need to do something.... we need to get ALL guns off the streets, and the only way to do this is to enact a full confiscation of all firearms. "
2A supports go nuts at the thought.
In typical knee-jerk reaction some super left congressman drafts an Amendment revoking the 2nd. "This archaic policy has got to go...it's allowed this blood shed to happen."
Racial spokesmen are all for it if it means that it save racial lives.
And if we have a left-leaning President....it gets Presidential support.
And in typical lock step fashion, congress passes it.

Never say never, but a 2/3 majority of both houses of Congress followed by 3/4 (38) of states Bicameral Legislatures seems unlikely. A constitutional convention would be the more likely threat for that. As an example, we already have people trying to bypass the constitution (http://nationalpopularvote.com/). Once we have national mob rule codified, I fear the worst.

[mancat]

wouldn't happen the way you think it would. most of the country has little patience for rioting. allowing it to spread to the point that the Fed tries to demand firearms confiscations would backfire. by the time it gets to that point of seriousness, the average person is going to want to have access to firearms to protect themselves and their families.

face it, everything the progressives have tried in the past few years to increase stigma surrounding gun ownership has backfired. ownership and sales are through the roof, higher than they have been in decades, and people are buying real guns for serious business, not fudd rifles and bird guns.

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