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GeekWithGuns
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os2firefox wrote: Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-17 flies under a bridge in Novosibirsk, Russia 1965 Wow gotta respect the absolute brass balls of that pilot. That is an incredible feat of sheer guts and technical ability.
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mcyclonegt
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GeekWithGuns wrote: os2firefox wrote: Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-17 flies under a bridge in Novosibirsk, Russia 1965 Wow gotta respect the absolute brass balls of that pilot. That is an incredible feat of sheer guts and technical ability. I think there might have been a tad bit of stupidity mixed in there somewhere.
_________________ "I'm Hub McCann. I've fought in two World Wars and countless smaller ones on three continents. I led thousands of men into battle with everything from horses and swords to artillery and TANKS! I've seen the headwaters of the Nile, and tribes of natives no white man had ever seen before. I've won and lost a dozen fortunes, KILLED MANY MEN! And loved only one woman, with a passion a FLEA like you could never begin to understand. That's who I am. NOW, GO HOME, BOY!"
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Fjordforder
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Quick!Name the source material! 
_________________"To the last I grapple with thee; from hell's heart I stab at thee! For hates sake I spit my last breath at thee! "Capt. Ahab I have never been, am not, and will NEVER be an NRA member. They sold me out a dozen times, just like they have you!"while CZ, SIG, FN, and Izhmash (hum...) are playing Hardball, American manufacturers are too busy playing Lawyerball." Want High end Russian military gear? PM me!
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mcyclonegt
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Bugs bunny
_________________ "I'm Hub McCann. I've fought in two World Wars and countless smaller ones on three continents. I led thousands of men into battle with everything from horses and swords to artillery and TANKS! I've seen the headwaters of the Nile, and tribes of natives no white man had ever seen before. I've won and lost a dozen fortunes, KILLED MANY MEN! And loved only one woman, with a passion a FLEA like you could never begin to understand. That's who I am. NOW, GO HOME, BOY!"
"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones". Albert Einstein 1947
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Fjordforder
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Nope. "Peace on Earth", the 1939 version. Same place my avatar comes from. When humanity goes extinct in a world war, the animals take over while an old squirrel narrates to his grandkids about what humans are like.
_________________"To the last I grapple with thee; from hell's heart I stab at thee! For hates sake I spit my last breath at thee! "Capt. Ahab I have never been, am not, and will NEVER be an NRA member. They sold me out a dozen times, just like they have you!"while CZ, SIG, FN, and Izhmash (hum...) are playing Hardball, American manufacturers are too busy playing Lawyerball." Want High end Russian military gear? PM me!
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the_chadman
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WaJim
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_________________ "Remove one freedom per generation and soon you will have no freedom and no one would have noticed."......Carl Marx
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os2firefox
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wklink
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Never really went beyond the prototype stage.
As a combat vehicle it was powerful but very limited. It was slow, too heavy for bridges (relied of fjording rivers) and the engines were not strong enough to move the bulk reliably. They essentially were moving fortifications.
The time and effort spent could have been used in fixes for the PzKw IVs or the PzKw Vs that were doing most of the fighting up until the end of the war. Even the Tiger IIs that scared the hell out of the allies were a waste of resources that could have been used to create more Panzer IVJs or Panthers.
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hkcavalier
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wklink wrote: Never really went beyond the prototype stage.
As a combat vehicle it was powerful but very limited. It was slow, too heavy for bridges (relied of fjording rivers) and the engines were not strong enough to move the bulk reliably. They essentially were moving fortifications.
The time and effort spent could have been used in fixes for the PzKw IVs or the PzKw Vs that were doing most of the fighting up until the end of the war. Even the Tiger IIs that scared the hell out of the allies were a waste of resources that could have been used to create more Panzer IVJs or Panthers. Yup, tactics & training > equipment. Like the Israeli up-gunned Shermans winning against T-55s and T-62s because the Israelis could actually score hits at long range; the Arab tankers in their "better" tanks, by and large, could not. Don't get me wrong, the German tankers were terrific. But one overly complex Tiger tank, barely able to get out of its own way, was no match for a platoon of Shermans maneuvering to hit its flanks or rear. Now...if only those WWII Shermans had anything like the Super Sherman gun (clearly inspired by the German Panther 75mm), that would have really been something. Now, back to the funny pics... 
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golddigger14s
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Damn hk, you said you wouldn't post that pic!
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Soldier_Citizen
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sooooo much fail... hey ya fat fuck get that sausage link you call a fucking finger of the goddamned bang switch!
Also meet the asshole who is probably gunna try and come take your stuff... because he ate all his stuff within the first 72 hours.
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the_chadman
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Soldier_Citizen wrote: sooooo much fail... hey ya fat fuck get that sausage link you call a fucking finger of the goddamned bang switch!
Also meet the asshole who is probably gunna try and. One take your stuff... because he ate all his stuff within the first 72 hours. Much center mass.
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Rix86
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the_chadman wrote: Soldier_Citizen wrote: sooooo much fail... hey ya fat fuck get that sausage link you call a fucking finger of the goddamned bang switch!
Also meet the asshole who is probably gunna try and. One take your stuff... because he ate all his stuff within the first 72 hours. Much center mass. But little important in all that mass
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Soldier_Citizen
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Rix86 wrote: the_chadman wrote: Soldier_Citizen wrote: sooooo much fail... hey ya fat fuck get that sausage link you call a fucking finger of the goddamned bang switch!
Also meet the asshole who is probably gunna try and. One take your stuff... because he ate all his stuff within the first 72 hours. Much center mass. But little important in all that mass Hope fully my 168 bthp's will carry enough energy to get there
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