Really? WTF! Hang those jurors!

[oldkim]

How plain of a murderer can you get?

I know "everyone" wants video proof... but god sakes... Why spare this worthless killer?

A King County jury has spared the life of Joseph McEnroe for killing six members of his ex-girlfriend’s family during a holiday gathering in Carnation on Christmas Eve 2007.

http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-new ... n-murders/

[Mediumrarechicken]

Fuck that shit. Hang that fucking pos. And his nasty ass girlfriend

[Mediumrarechicken]

But at the sane time you are sending a person to his death, that weighs heavy on your shoulders. Kinda hard to say you would send him on his way without really being there for 2 months, seeing him living and breathing. Just to know that you are the reason will die is heavy.

[Mr. Q]

I'm cool with it. I'll sleep soundly at night and affirm it was the right thing to do in front of Jesus and God after I die.

[Sparky D]

With the fluffy bunny governor we have (and will likely continue to have as long as the liberal cesspools keep turning out to vote while liberty loving Washingtonians stay home), he would never see a needle and would waste millions of tax payer dollars on appeals.

I think it'll be faster in general population regardless....

[golddigger14s]

Does it really matter? Death has been put on 'hold' in this state anyway. So life/no parole is the best we can get here.

[kf7mjf]

This is 2015. I for one do not wish to play around and pretend bronze age punishments are appropriate for a modern, enlightened world.

[Sinus211]

This is 2015. I for one do not wish to play around and pretend bronze age punishments are appropriate for a modern, enlightened world.

Someone comes breaking into your home and points a gun at you. They mean to kill you. What do you do?

This guy didn't just mean to, he DID kill 6 people.

What do you do?


As a firearms owner and enthusiast unless your answer to my first question is "drop my gun and hope he plays nice" you can't possibly agree with the abolition of the death penalty. If you would execute it yourself, it can and should be executed. Simple as that.

[Ops]

criminals get more rights and free stuff

[kf7mjf]

This is 2015. I for one do not wish to play around and pretend bronze age punishments are appropriate for a modern, enlightened world.

Someone comes breaking into your home and points a gun at you. They mean to kill you. What do you do?

This guy didn't just mean to, he DID kill 6 people.

What do you do?


As a firearms owner and enthusiast unless your answer to my first question is "drop my gun and hope he plays nice" you can't possibly agree with the abolition of the death penalty. If you would execute it yourself, it can and should be executed. Simple as that.

There is a difference between engaging in combat in immediate defense, and taking somebody who is in custody, and a prisoner and killing them, to argue otherwise is rather facetious.

[Sinus211]

This is 2015. I for one do not wish to play around and pretend bronze age punishments are appropriate for a modern, enlightened world.

Someone comes breaking into your home and points a gun at you. They mean to kill you. What do you do?

This guy didn't just mean to, he DID kill 6 people.

What do you do?


As a firearms owner and enthusiast unless your answer to my first question is "drop my gun and hope he plays nice" you can't possibly agree with the abolition of the death penalty. If you would execute it yourself, it can and should be executed. Simple as that.

There is a difference between engaging in combat in immediate defense, and taking somebody who is in custody, and a prisoner and killing them, to argue otherwise is rather facetious.

I understand your point. You would kill only in the moment of aggression.

My point is that you would execute a death penalty for a lesser offense. You would kill a man simply for possessing the intent to kill. This man has killed x6. His offense is greater. Does it not make sense that he should be subject to death as well?

[kf7mjf]

This is 2015. I for one do not wish to play around and pretend bronze age punishments are appropriate for a modern, enlightened world.

Someone comes breaking into your home and points a gun at you. They mean to kill you. What do you do?

This guy didn't just mean to, he DID kill 6 people.

What do you do?


As a firearms owner and enthusiast unless your answer to my first question is "drop my gun and hope he plays nice" you can't possibly agree with the abolition of the death penalty. If you would execute it yourself, it can and should be executed. Simple as that.

There is a difference between engaging in combat in immediate defense, and taking somebody who is in custody, and a prisoner and killing them, to argue otherwise is rather facetious.

I understand your point. You would kill only in the moment of aggression.

My point is that you would execute a death penalty for a lesser offense. You would kill a man simply for possessing the intent to kill. This man has killed x6. His offense is greater. Does it not make sense that he should be subject to death as well?

The intent and credible threat in the moment is an act of self preservation, and is not "executing a death penalty." A death penalty is a white washed term for a state sponsored judicial execution. Killing in valid defense is an act taken to prevent or mitigate harm. Taking a prisoner and killing them when they are in custody, and in some oddly twisted ritualistic act of vengeance is something entirely different.

[Sinus211]

This is 2015. I for one do not wish to play around and pretend bronze age punishments are appropriate for a modern, enlightened world.

Someone comes breaking into your home and points a gun at you. They mean to kill you. What do you do?

This guy didn't just mean to, he DID kill 6 people.

What do you do?


As a firearms owner and enthusiast unless your answer to my first question is "drop my gun and hope he plays nice" you can't possibly agree with the abolition of the death penalty. If you would execute it yourself, it can and should be executed. Simple as that.

There is a difference between engaging in combat in immediate defense, and taking somebody who is in custody, and a prisoner and killing them, to argue otherwise is rather facetious.

I understand your point. You would kill only in the moment of aggression.

My point is that you would execute a death penalty for a lesser offense. You would kill a man simply for possessing the intent to kill. This man has killed x6. His offense is greater. Does it not make sense that he should be subject to death as well?

The intent and credible threat in the moment is an act of self preservation, and is not "executing a death penalty." A death penalty is a white washed term for a state sponsored judicial execution. Killing in valid defense is an act taken to prevent or mitigate harm. Taking a prisoner and killing them when they are in custody, and in some oddly twisted ritualistic act of vengeance is something entirely different.

Holding a person in a cell for 20 hours a day for the rest of their life isn't a twisted ritualistic act of vengeance? Really? It takes a sickening amount of effort to hold a captive in prison for their entire life. That is sick. That is twisted.

Ending a life that has proven to be without worth is, well, it's humane in a way.

[kf7mjf]

American prisons run towards the inhumane no matter how you slice it. However, it is generally held that life is more morally correct than death. It is a fine time to consider prison reform along with doing away with judicial executions. Although, we are in great company with the death penalty. China, Saudi Arabia, North Korea, they too all employ the death penalty. Sometimes rather publicly and harshly.

[platz]

Aren't all punishments sort of similar? Nothing that they do can prevent what already happened. The big thing is prevention of new crimes. People don't typically murder people because they know that there is a chance they may be put to death. The harsher the punishment the less likely someone is to commit a crime.

You could also look at it as a dead murderer can no longer re offend. People on LWOP have nothing to lose and may kill when ever they get a chance in prison.