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Tue May 19, 2015 11:13 am
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Not always!!! I've had them balance my tires and not even half a day later take it back because of the balance. Ya it pissed me off because of the time I had to waste for them to do it again PROPERLY.

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I used to wait until I went to Montana to buy tires to avoid the sales tax. I always went to Les Schwab in the past so I called them and got a quote for their top of the line tires for the wife's Lexus... Out the door was over $900. I then went to Costco & for the top of the line Bridgestone Torrenza I went out the door at $750......... Guess where I bought my tires?????????

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I used to wait until I went to Montana to buy tires to avoid the sales tax. I always went to Les Schwab in the past so I called them and got a quote for their top of the line tires for the wife's Lexus... Out the door was over $900. I then went to Costco & for the top of the line Bridgestone Torrenza I went out the door at $750......... Guess where I bought my tires?????????




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Tue May 19, 2015 5:19 pm
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With Schwab, more about the fact they are every where.
So getting service Is easier, especially in eastern wa

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I've always stuck with Kuhmo or Yokahama tires at discount and they've done well for me. Not sure the siping is worth it, but they've always done good for me. I may check out Costco next time we need tires. My wife's car is pretty cheap tires, but mine are Z rated and an odd size, so I always have to spend more.

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Costco customer service sucks. Last time I went for tire rotation I was the only one there, for an appointment made a week ahead of time. They told me it would be an hour and a half. When I asked why they said they had to remount and balance all 4 tires. Then the crew,including the manager took a meal break. WTF?


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I retired from the Tire Industry and prior to that spent 15 years as a factory rep for a manufacture of balancing equipment.

Most people, including those in the tire shops, don't understand what makes a tire ride smooth. If they don't see any run-out when turning the tire/wheel on the vehicle or balancer they think all is OK and just "spin er up", hammer some weights on, spin again and if everything "reads zero" its got to be OK.

First, think of a tire as an infinite number of springs that hold the wheel up off the ground (not exactly but close enough for this exercise). Some of those "springs" are softer than others and some are stiffer than others. This results in a tire, while looking round when not loaded, running down the road as if it had "corners on it" (square).

There's a machine out there that measures this "Loaded Runout" as well as balancing. Many Les Schwab stores have them, Discount Tire---Doubtful. The entry level for this machine is around $10K while a ordinary computer balancer is about half that.


My guess is that he OP has an issue due to a tire that doesn't roll round and could also be improperly balanced.

Tires are a funny item. Manufactures start out by designing the perfect tire. After manufacturing costs, selling price and profits are then factored in, they start removing some of the features or materials that made the tire "perfect". The lower down the "Totem Pole of Price" you go, the greater the chance of having ride disturbance, longevity, or durability (resistance to road hazards) issues.

FWIW, I too own a Titan. Last set of tires ran $800 and when I'm driving over 60 mph (sometimes a lot more than that) they ride like a dream. I expect to see close to 100k for mileage as I rotate every 5k like clockwork and keep them properly inflated.

If Discount can't (or won't) fix the problem, check out this website to locate one of the "Road Force Measuring" wheel balancers near you. (my local Nissan Dealer has one, yours may also)

http://www.gsp9700.com/search/findgsp9700.cfm


The cost of "Match Mounting"can be less than stepping up to a more expensive tire. This is where they take loaded run-out readings on the tire and wheel, separately, then match the "low spot" of the tire to the "high spot" of the wheel, then balance the assembly. A good shop will even match the tire with the greatest loaded run-out to the wheel on your vehicle that has the greatest run-out, thus cancelling out more vibration inducing issues.

Lastly, tires that have this done to them often last far longer when driven exclusively on the freeway.

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I used to wait until I went to Montana to buy tires to avoid the sales tax. I always went to Les Schwab in the past so I called them and got a quote for their top of the line tires for the wife's Lexus... Out the door was over $900. I then went to Costco & for the top of the line Bridgestone Torrenza I went out the door at $750......... Guess where I bought my tires?????????


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I retired from the Tire Industry and prior to that spent 15 years as a factory rep for a manufacture of balancing equipment.

Most people, including those in the tire shops, don't understand what makes a tire ride smooth. If they don't see any run-out when turning the tire/wheel on the vehicle or balancer they think all is OK and just "spin er up", hammer some weights on, spin again and if everything "reads zero" its got to be OK.

First, think of a tire as an infinite number of springs that hold the wheel up off the ground (not exactly but close enough for this exercise). Some of those "springs" are softer than others and some are stiffer than others. This results in a tire, while looking round when not loaded, running down the road as if it had "corners on it" (square).

There's a machine out there that measures this "Loaded Runout" as well as balancing. Many Les Schwab stores have them, Discount Tire---Doubtful. The entry level for this machine is around $10K while a ordinary computer balancer is about half that.


My guess is that he OP has an issue due to a tire that doesn't roll round and could also be improperly balanced.

Tires are a funny item. Manufactures start out by designing the perfect tire. After manufacturing costs, selling price and profits are then factored in, they start removing some of the features or materials that made the tire "perfect". The lower down the "Totem Pole of Price" you go, the greater the chance of having ride disturbance, longevity, or durability (resistance to road hazards) issues.

FWIW, I too own a Titan. Last set of tires ran $800 and when I'm driving over 60 mph (sometimes a lot more than that) they ride like a dream. I expect to see close to 100k for mileage as I rotate every 5k like clockwork and keep them properly inflated.

If Discount can't (or won't) fix the problem, check out this website to locate one of the "Road Force Measuring" wheel balancers near you. (my local Nissan Dealer has one, yours may also)

http://www.gsp9700.com/search/findgsp9700.cfm


The cost of "Match Mounting"can be less than stepping up to a more expensive tire. This is where they take loaded run-out readings on the tire and wheel, separately, then match the "low spot" of the tire to the "high spot" of the wheel, then balance the assembly. A good shop will even match the tire with the greatest loaded run-out to the wheel on your vehicle that has the greatest run-out, thus cancelling out more vibration inducing issues.

Lastly, tires that have this done to them often last far longer when driven exclusively on the freeway.




Thank you for the info, their was a lot of stuff about tires that I did NOT know.


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