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Re: 2016 Election Humor (all parties welcome)

Tue Apr 05, 2016 6:16 pm

solyanik wrote:
OhShoot! wrote:
WaJim wrote:Image


FALSE. You can't believe all the memes on facebook can you?

http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/zeifman.asp

Yes he can!


What about this then?

jukk0u wrote:
OhShoot! wrote:
WaJim wrote:Image


FALSE. You can't believe all the memes on facebook can you?

http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/zeifman.asp


Snopes (not a very credible source, run as it is by Yogurt-eating patchouli-smelling lefties :bigsmile: ) claims this report is false on the grounds of inaccurate references to who hired and fired Illary. But they do not refute her actions.

here's Zeifman's book:

http://1984arkansasmotheroftheyear.blogspot.com/2012/07/jerry-zeifman-slams-hillary-for.html

A small exerpt:

" Hillary assured me that she had not drafted, and would not advocate, any such rules changes. However, as documented in my personal diary I soon learned that she had lied. She had already drafted changes, and continued to advocate them. In one written legal memorandum, she advocated denying President Nixon representation by counsel. In so doing she simply ignored the fact that in the committee’s then-most-recent prior impeachment proceeding, the committee had afforded the right to counsel to Supreme Court Justice William O. Douglas.
I had also informed Hillary that the Douglas impeachment files were available for public inspection in the committee offices. She later removed the Douglas files without my permission and carried them to the offices of the impeachment inquiry staff -- where they were no longer accessible to the public.
Hillary had also made other flawed procedural recommendations, arguing that the Judiciary Committee should: not hold any hearings with – or take depositions of -- any live witnesses; not conduct any original investigation of Watergate, bribery, tax evasion, or any other possible impeachable offense of President Nixon; and should rely solely on documentary evidence compiled by other committees and by the Justice Departments special Watergate prosecutor . "

While I find no claim in his book that he fired her, and we can concede theren lies the inaccuracy of the meme, the fact that she acted inproperly, cannot be refuted

Re: 2016 Election Humor (all parties welcome)

Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:18 pm

solyanik wrote:Imagine this scenario: Hillary wins Democratic nomination, Trump wins Republican, Trump offers Hillary a VP spot, and just for the lulz she accepts. Now the two most reviled US politicians get into White House UNOPPOSED!

Wait a minute . . . you would prefer Trump to Hillary?
:whatthe:
Didn't see that coming.

Re: 2016 Election Humor (all parties welcome)

Tue Apr 05, 2016 11:11 pm

Why would you say that? I don't prefer Trump to Hillary, and at any rate Trump has absolutely no chance to win against more or less anyone on the Dem side.

Re: 2016 Election Humor (all parties welcome)

Tue Apr 05, 2016 11:22 pm

DocNugent wrote:
solyanik wrote:Imagine this scenario: Hillary wins Democratic nomination, Trump wins Republican, Trump offers Hillary a VP spot, and just for the lulz she accepts. Now the two most reviled US politicians get into White House UNOPPOSED!

Wait a minute . . . you would prefer Trump to Hillary?
:whatthe:
Didn't see that coming.

I know I would.

Re: 2016 Election Humor (all parties welcome)

Wed Apr 06, 2016 8:50 am

solyanik wrote:Why would you say that? I don't prefer Trump to Hillary, and at any rate Trump has absolutely no chance to win against more or less anyone on the Dem side.

Because you picked Trump to head the Trump-Clinton ticket in your scenario.

Re: 2016 Election Humor (all parties welcome)

Wed Apr 06, 2016 12:17 pm

I don't know how to make one of your bumper stickers Doc, but here's a suggestion:

Will vote for Bernie for half of your paycheck!

Re: 2016 Election Humor (all parties welcome)

Wed Apr 06, 2016 7:01 pm

DocNugent wrote:
solyanik wrote:Why would you say that? I don't prefer Trump to Hillary, and at any rate Trump has absolutely no chance to win against more or less anyone on the Dem side.

Because you picked Trump to head the Trump-Clinton ticket in your scenario.

Nah, this was just because of who of the two cares more about the size of his/her penis...

Re: 2016 Election Humor (all parties welcome)

Wed Apr 06, 2016 7:15 pm

solyanik wrote:
DocNugent wrote:
solyanik wrote:Why would you say that? I don't prefer Trump to Hillary, and at any rate Trump has absolutely no chance to win against more or less anyone on the Dem side.

Because you picked Trump to head the Trump-Clinton ticket in your scenario.

Nah, this was just because of who of the two cares more about the size of his/her penis...

Didn't know that was part of your candidate eval criteria, either.
:wink05:
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Re: 2016 Election Humor (all parties welcome)

Wed Apr 06, 2016 7:34 pm

This is not my eval criteria. It's my eval of a chance of Trump agreeing to the second place vs Hillary. Good use of a JavaScript function though.

Re: 2016 Election Humor (all parties welcome)

Wed Apr 06, 2016 7:38 pm

Get the word out to your friends/family in CA:
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Re: 2016 Election Humor (all parties welcome)

Thu Apr 07, 2016 6:57 am

If only the feds would move on this stuff.
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Re: 2016 Election Humor (all parties welcome)

Fri Apr 08, 2016 9:01 pm

If Emily was still with us . . . .
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Re: 2016 Election Humor (all parties welcome)

Sun Apr 10, 2016 5:11 am

Simplified for the low-information voter.
:popcorn:
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Re: 2016 Election Humor (all parties welcome)

Sun Apr 10, 2016 10:44 am

DocNugent wrote:Simplified for the low-information voter.
:popcorn:


Good summary. thumbsup

Re: 2016 Election Humor (all parties welcome)

Sun Apr 10, 2016 9:49 pm

It isn't.

Sanders is not a "hard core socialist". There are no hard core socialists in mainstream US politics. He is a European-style social-democrat. If you want an example of what a hard-core socialist looks like in European politics, Sawant is a close approximation.

Likewise, Cruz is not a hardcore conservative, he's a religious right-winger. Just like all republicans, his "small government" platform is about making government small where it comes to helping people, but he's perfectly fine keeping it enormous when it comes to paying defense contractors. The "fiscal discipline" goes right out the window when military spending is concerned. Likewise, keeping government out of my financials is super important, but keeping the government in my bed - regulating morality - is just as important.

However, if the sticker was intended to keep a low-information voter being such, then yes, it would work.
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