Says a new 495 page detailed report which was ignored or badly spun to hide the details by the press. Full story and other related links here: http://www.breitbart.com/big-government ... ation-tax/

A new, detailed report identifies how much illegal immigration costs America and harms American workers and jobs. The bleak future of Obama's policy, which Hillary wants to greatly expand by increasing Somalis by 550% if she is elected, will leave us with millions of illiterates that will be on welfare the rest of their lives, bringing no skills or even the ability to communicate in open society. The group’s hide-the-cost spin was copied by The New York Times and The Wall Street Journal — but the report was mostly ignored by other media outlets amid the turmoil in Charlotte and the 2016 presidential campaign.

......The think-tank, titled The National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine, is not a government-run agency. It is a privately run think-tank which writes politically influential reports for government and private-sector funders. For example, this new Sept. 22 immigration study was funded by the pro-immigration John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation.....


....Deep in the report, but not in the press release, it shows how each new unskilled immigrant costs state and local taxpayers $1,600 per year. It shows how the annual cost of legal and illegal immigration to state and local taxpayer is at least $57 billion, and that each unskilled immigrant is a net loss to taxpayers for the next 75 years.

Hundreds of pages inside the report, but not in the summary, it shows that the latest wave of legal and illegal immigrants aren’t integrating to the U.S. economy as fast as prior generations, and sit hows that only university-trained foreign migrants can pay their way in the United States by taking white-collar jobs sought by university-trained Americans.

The critical details are difficult to find in the long report, but a useful guide has been published by one member of the committee which wrote the report. Prof. George Borjas, a Harvard expert on immigration, posted his easy-to-use guide on his website. The guide says that,

"Unfortunately the report does not give a transparent estimate of the size of the wealth transfer from workers to firms, reporting instead that, on average, wages went down by 5.2 percent. It would be better if they had reported the number of dollars involved in that transfer. That number, it turns out, would be about $500 billion....".....

Also, The Washington Times reported

Immigration drains the government, sapping as much as $296 billion a year from federal, state and local taxpayers while depressing wages, at least in the short run, according to an authoritative study released Wednesday by the National Academies of Science, Engineering and Medicine.


Yes, there is a true difference in this year's election. When does actively supporting this level of harm to Americans become treason?

Maybe it might get highlighted if Trump is on his game Monday.

Probably the key feature is the fact that many of the immigrants today are not coming from other first world or second world counties but from third world countries. They are poorly educated and therefore have few skills necessary for the high tech business environmetn in the USA.

Also, probably hidden in here is the fact that if welfare wasn't such a hammock already there would be even more job losses associated with the report.

Nope, they don't.

All three major brotherhoods in the construction trades actively recruit "illegal" immigrants.

That's because they will take less pay and are desperate enough to do whatever they are told.

You forgot about the diseases they bring with them

http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2014/ ... swine-flu/


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That sounds to me like you're confused about what unions do and how they do it.

We get stronger every time an immigrant joins us.

Sounds to me like you are confusing unions of today with the unions of the past.

Interesting that you dropped "illegal"

That's simply because I don't use the word "illegal" anymore when referring to immigrants. I don't care how they cross the border, and as far as I'm concerned, you're all illegal immigrants.

You obviously don't see what goes in the trades outside of the unions, you know, where the majority of construction jobs are.
Concrete workers, framers, carpentry, all being taken over by folks from South of the Rio Grand, at least around these parts. Most of these guys are making the hourly rate that US citizens were making 20+ years ago, or less.


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You have a rare correct statement here. When they JOIN US. Most of those we're discussing here don't join us. They come here to make money to send home. They use a phony SSN, claim a huge number of dependents, if they're not working under the table. They're not doing anything to become members of this society or improve the US.



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That's been the case since at least 1950, and the case that I, personally, have seen since 1976.

Why do all construction workers, whether they're out of local 131 or with Skeeter & Booger's Excellent Framing Company & Bait Shop, think they're in the majority?

You're are all illegal immigrants? Really
So are you guy. Land bridge heard of it?

https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/news-article ... -migration


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I don't think anyone I know is here to improve the U.S.

I'll go back to my old phrase, then. We get stronger every time an immigrant crosses the border.

I was trying to remove any ambiguity about which direction.

More diviseness. Once again separating yourself from "us". Whether you're elevating yourself or not, how does this help your point? Always nice to see a pot shot at the end of an otherwise contributing post. Really makes your point stand hold up........

Btw, like any other time, especially in today's society, you may want to think about whay you say, and who you say it to, especially in regards to race. I shared my own foot in mouth story at the NEGS that involved a member here. You never know who or "what" someone is.

That's right, I only know what I read here, or what I see and hear when we get together. Speaking of which, I didn't hear your story.

Were they lying? In error? Are their words somehow without truth?

Slam an immigrant coming into the U.S., and you're damn right I'll separate myself from you. Your grip on reality becomes suspect, as does any sense of human morality or simple fair play. It tells me exactly how far above sea level your viewpoint originates from. It would make me all sad-faced to be in the same group as someone in that condition or with those limitations.

Anti-immigrant sentiment is merely...

...average.