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Guntrader
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Location: Mukilteoish Joined: Sat Mar 26, 2011 Posts: 11589
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That's barbaric and insane! Probably even racist! Actually putting criminals in jail for breaking the law??? http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2017/07/2 ... l-hearing/Chaos erupted Tuesday at a Baltimore City Hall hearing for a proposed mandatory one-year sentence for possession of an illegal handgun. It took just minutes for rising tensions to overflow. Council members had issued several warnings to unruly attendees, but police were called to move in as activists clashed with council members, and people pushed back. Under the amended version of the bill, a mandatory minimum sentence would only apply to second offenses, except for first time offenders whose gun violation was committed along with another crime. “Over 600 shootings in less than a year in our city and something has to give,” Catherine Pugh says. “And so we are trying to protect the citizens of our city and make sure that we curb the violence in our city.” Opponents argue adding a minimum mandatory one-year jail sentence for illegal gun possession unfairly targets young men of color. "We cannot arrest our way out of this situation," said Genevieve Wilson, an educator.
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L_O_G
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Location: South Seattle Joined: Thu Sep 22, 2011 Posts: 13515
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Just wait til' the Ravens sign Kaepernick this week.
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snozzberries
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Location: King County Joined: Thu Oct 16, 2014 Posts: 4012
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It's just insane. Liberals support criminals, and hate/want to punish law abiding citizens.
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TechnoWeenie
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Location: Nova Laboratories Joined: Tue Oct 25, 2011 Posts: 19174
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Guntrader wrote: Opponents argue adding a minimum mandatory one-year jail sentence for illegal gun possession unfairly targets young men of color.
So, what they're saying is, 'young men of color' are carrying illegal guns more than anyone else, and it's not 'fair' to target them.... Riiigggghhhttt... Because we should apply law based on race.... but only if it's in favor of minorities..... Makes sense... wouldn't wanna make anyone upset....and, you know, apply law EQUALLY.... 
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Guntrader
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Location: Mukilteoish Joined: Sat Mar 26, 2011 Posts: 11589
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When I think about Baltimore....3 years ago six "young people", "students" pulled up with guns and robbed an entire tour group at gunpoint at a bus stop while they were waiting for their bus. Officials were shocked because it happened around lunchtime in the business district. Maybe I'll binge watch The Wire again. Omar comin! 
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waglocker
Location: Ohio Joined: Fri Nov 9, 2012 Posts: 3915
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Will unfairly target young men of color? You don't say. How many white gang-bangers are in Baltimore?
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PTmorgan
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Location: Colorado Joined: Sun May 6, 2012 Posts: 1179
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TechnoWeenie wrote: Guntrader wrote: Opponents argue adding a minimum mandatory one-year jail sentence for illegal gun possession unfairly targets young men of color.
So, what they're saying is, 'young men of color' are carrying illegal guns more than anyone else, and it's not 'fair' to target them.... Riiigggghhhttt... Because we should apply law based on race.... but only if it's in favor of minorities..... Makes sense... wouldn't wanna make anyone upset....and, you know, apply law EQUALLY....  Exactly!
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sigman226
Location: Oly Wa Joined: Fri Aug 10, 2012 Posts: 628
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I think this law would effect any criminal carrying a gun regardless of color. Or am I missing something here?
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Selador
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Location: Index Joined: Thu Aug 23, 2012 Posts: 12955
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sigman226 wrote: I think this law would effect any criminal carrying a gun regardless of color. Or am I missing something here? It would. What they are upset about is that it would affect everyone equally. And since young men of color are overwhelmingly represented as offenders, they equate that to unfair targeting of young men of color.
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waglocker
Location: Ohio Joined: Fri Nov 9, 2012 Posts: 3915
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Selador wrote: sigman226 wrote: I think this law would effect any criminal carrying a gun regardless of color. Or am I missing something here? It would. What they are upset about is that it would affect everyone equally. And since young men of color are overwhelmingly represented as offenders, they equate that to unfair targeting of young men of color. Awww, that's too God damned bad. Stop being offenders and the issue goes away.....imagine that.
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Selador
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Location: Index Joined: Thu Aug 23, 2012 Posts: 12955
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waglocker wrote: Selador wrote: sigman226 wrote: I think this law would effect any criminal carrying a gun regardless of color. Or am I missing something here? It would. What they are upset about is that it would affect everyone equally. And since young men of color are overwhelmingly represented as offenders, they equate that to unfair targeting of young men of color. Awww, that's too God damned bad. Stop being offenders and the issue goes away.....imagine that. Logic is anathema to them. It hurts their feelings, and their brains.
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jukk0u
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Location: Idaho, Land of the Free Joined: Wed May 1, 2013 Posts: 22314
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How else dey spoestuh git ther munee?
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PMB
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Joined: Wed Mar 6, 2013 Posts: 12018
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I am opposed to any new gun laws, and most of the old ones. Possessing a Tool of Freedom (Tool of Self Defense) should not be cause for extra minimum sentencing. The laws already cover crimes. Was it stolen? Added time for theft or knowingly possessing stolen property. Was it used in a crime? ad infinitum
I am always suspicious of news stories, no matter what the source. Some of the comments almost seem Onionesque in their silliness. Of course, truth is stranger than fiction quite a lot, and there are unreasonable jack holes in every group.
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Guntrader
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Location: Mukilteoish Joined: Sat Mar 26, 2011 Posts: 11589
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It's been reported by a couple sites. http://bfy.tw/D65b
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PMB
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Joined: Wed Mar 6, 2013 Posts: 12018
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My suspicion is regarding the spin. Onionesque was in reference to taking ridiculous positions.
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