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Re: Senate Blocks GOP Health Bill

Tue Aug 01, 2017 11:59 am

Jonathan Brown wrote:Answer my fucking question.

Did they or did they NOT, try to drop millions of people off Medicaid to raise money, all the while offering tax cuts to the rich? YES or NO?

I'm not sure why they won't admit it, but the answer to your question is YES THEY DID. It's a fact, not an opinion.

Re: Senate Blocks GOP Health Bill

Tue Aug 01, 2017 12:02 pm

Can either of you answer a simple question? Why to you continue to dodge it? Just answer it, and I won't need to keep asking it.


Did they or did they NOT, try to drop millions of people off Medicaid to raise money, all the while offering tax cuts to the rich? YES or NO?

It is a very simple question. It refers to something that the GOP tried to do, and it was voted down. There was a result. A concrete, no debating it type of result. Why act all stupid? Just answer it. Or are you afraid, it will make all your rants since I first asked it many pages ago, all moot? Yeah, I believe that's it.

Re: Senate Blocks GOP Health Bill

Tue Aug 01, 2017 12:04 pm

I answered it several times and explained why it was perfectly fine for them to do both of those things it would have saved lives and let people keep their hard-earned money.

Now that your question has been explicitly answered lets see if you will go back and answer the myriad points that you refused to answer.

Re: Senate Blocks GOP Health Bill

Tue Aug 01, 2017 12:06 pm

"Who could blame the people who felt abandoned and ignored by the major parties for reaching in despair for a candidate who offered oversimplified answers to infinitely complex questions and managed to entertain them in the process?"

These are the people he is talking about.

Re: Senate Blocks GOP Health Bill

Tue Aug 01, 2017 1:00 pm

Duke EB wrote:
Jonathan Brown wrote:Answer my fucking question.

Did they or did they NOT, try to drop millions of people off Medicaid to raise money, all the while offering tax cuts to the rich? YES or NO?

I'm not sure why they won't admit it, but the answer to your question is YES THEY DID. It's a fact, not an opinion.



The ACTUAL ANSWER TO JB'S repeated question is NO, they did NOT cut Medicare spending, rather they LESSENED THE AUTOMATIC RATE OF INCREASE FOR FUTURE YEARS written into law from PREVIOUS CONGRESSES.

Read that sentence and think about it.

The Democrats, ABCBSNBCNN, the Bezos Gazette, and the Carlos Slim Times ALL screamed from the mountaintop the Republicans CUT spending in the proposed bill that was voted down.

Spending bills are created annually. Existing laws that have financial commitments from previous years are automatically folded into the new budget. The Trump plan calls for the LESSENING OF THE GUARANTEED INCREASE in spending.

All of them MISREPORTED THE FACT that there was no cutting of spending, only decrease in future years of increase ALREADY BUILT INTO THE FUTURE YEARS BY LAW.

You work for a company. Two years ago, you got a 6% pay raise. Last year, again, you got a 6% pay raise. This year, for whatever reason, you got no pay raise. Did you get a 6% cut in pay? NO! Now if you want, this example could be spun, I don't want to waste the time.

So are we clear? I wish I was here a day ago.

BTW, before Obamacare law was implemented, Medicare was given to those at or under the official federal poverty line. Now, Medicare is offered to many well ABOVE the poverty line. These people include healthy young adults and middle aged working people. The Obamacare burden has crushed it from a financial view.

Oh, and Medicare is NOT insurance, but a government subsidized benefit created by Congress for a given class of people. Insurance is defined here previously.

And McCain? He voted NO for one reason, IMHO: to burn Trump and get back at him for his negative comments during the election.
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