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L_O_G
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Location: South Seattle Joined: Thu Sep 22, 2011 Posts: 13515
Real Name: JP
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dreadi wrote: Ever been pulled for Driving While Black? You dont need to be black to be profiled by the Police. I know all about this first hand.
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| Tue Aug 01, 2017 2:36 pm |
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Jonathan Brown
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Location: SnoCo Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 Posts: 2357
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I was pulled over by a black cop once. Does that count?
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| Tue Aug 01, 2017 2:38 pm |
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dreadi
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Location: Tacoma, Washington Joined: Fri Nov 21, 2014 Posts: 8614
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L_O_G wrote: dreadi wrote: Ever been pulled for Driving While Black? You dont need to be black to be profiled by the Police. I agree.
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mislabeled
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Location: N-Sno Joined: Thu Oct 3, 2013 Posts: 4015
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I see your point, but real life for many women is being raped. That's a bias that's just as applicable as skin color (not a lot of guys being raped on the streets in this country, y'know what I mean?). Unless your company offers something that helps people avoid that reality, I think it's pandering to show a mother instructing her young daughter on how a rape kit works, as if it's an inevitability.
These types of marketing schticks obviously produce the results companies want, otherwise they wouldn't use them. I still think they're insulting to their target demographic and I don't like them. I've been that demographic and that's my perspective. "You're pretty smart for a girl." People say unkind things and do shitty stuff all the time, many because of bias. You can let it get you down or you can do something about it. No one can take your power from you, but you can sure give it away.
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Guntrader
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Location: Mukilteoish Joined: Sat Mar 26, 2011 Posts: 11589
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Had a white friend with a white Trans Am who complained about being pulled over all the time. He had spray painted large black skulls all over it and had a pink Mohawk with tattoos on the side of his head. Looked like he came out of a Rancid video. I told him "Man, that's some suspicious looking shit you have going on there."
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Mediumrarechicken
Location: Puyallup Joined: Thu Aug 16, 2012 Posts: 9063
Real Name: Richard Fitzwelliner
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dreadi wrote: Those are depictions of real life for many black folks. P&G didn't just make them up. Ever been pulled for Driving While Black? I don't understand why anyone has beef over a company making a point that some reality sucks, needs to change, and making money from it. I've been pulled over for Matching A Description. I've been in a car that was pulled over and a black dude was driving a few times. Wanna guess who was ripped out of the car and which one went perfectly fine? I know sadly people are treated differently because of their color, it sucks and it's unfortunate. But why can't they show something positive?
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dreadi
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Location: Tacoma, Washington Joined: Fri Nov 21, 2014 Posts: 8614
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Mediumrarechicken wrote: But why can't they show something positive? It's all a conspiracy to get black folks to use Ivory soap, Joy detergent, Mr. Clean products, and Old Spice body wash. 
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| Tue Aug 01, 2017 2:56 pm |
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mislabeled
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Location: N-Sno Joined: Thu Oct 3, 2013 Posts: 4015
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dreadi wrote: Mediumrarechicken wrote: But why can't they show something positive? It's all a conspiracy to get black folks to use Ivory soap, Joy detergent, Mr. Clean products, and Old Spice body wash.   Smell nice and you won't get pulled over. Sounds legit...
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PMB
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Regarding boycotting- I do it on a personal level every day. Not exactly a boycott of course, but I absolutely factor in whether I like any company's policies or positions when it comes to purchases. I might buy less than I would have had it been from a 2A supportive company, or try to squeeze more life out of it before repurchasing. If there are alternatives I weigh the inconveniences and tolerating slightly lower quality or features or higher price- you get the idea. If it is too inconvenient, then I bite the bullet and hand money over for a product that I need.
I didn't watch the commercial... my comment is about the single most important cause to me. 2A.
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L_O_G
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Location: South Seattle Joined: Thu Sep 22, 2011 Posts: 13515
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dreadi wrote: Mediumrarechicken wrote: But why can't they show something positive? It's all a conspiracy to get black folks to use Ivory soap, Joy detergent, Mr. Clean products, and Old Spice body wash.  Well that Old Spice guy is pretty legit
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Mediumrarechicken
Location: Puyallup Joined: Thu Aug 16, 2012 Posts: 9063
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dreadi wrote: Mediumrarechicken wrote: But why can't they show something positive? It's all a conspiracy to get black folks to use Ivory soap, Joy detergent, Mr. Clean products, and Old Spice body wash.  Dude we all know there isn't a commercial needed because there is already pinesol and suave products.
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dreadi
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Location: Tacoma, Washington Joined: Fri Nov 21, 2014 Posts: 8614
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This is the scheme:
Black folks, use this white soap before you come to your dish-washing job and make the man happy. Do this everyday and you'll eventually rise to be as "legit" as the Old Spice guy.
When are we getting the tinfoil hat smiley?
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OhShoot!
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Location: Bellingham Canada Joined: Thu Jan 3, 2013 Posts: 4995
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dreadi wrote: Mediumrarechicken wrote: But why can't they show something positive? It's all a conspiracy to get black folks to use Ivory soap, Joy detergent, Mr. Clean products, and Old Spice body wash.  Don't forget the Palmer's cocoa butter for ashy skin!
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MadPick
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Location: Renton, WA Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2011 Posts: 53104
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I didn't have a problem with anything in that commercial except the part where the parent says, "Let's talk about when you get pulled over . . . this is about you not coming home." That just feeds the "blacks vs. police" war, and makes things worse. I thought it was inappropriate. The rest of the commercial, well, I thought it was pretty cool actually. 
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dreadi
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Location: Tacoma, Washington Joined: Fri Nov 21, 2014 Posts: 8614
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OhShoot! wrote: dreadi wrote: Mediumrarechicken wrote: But why can't they show something positive? It's all a conspiracy to get black folks to use Ivory soap, Joy detergent, Mr. Clean products, and Old Spice body wash.  Don't forget the Palmer's cocoa butter for ashy skin! That's not a P&G product, man.
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