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MadPick wrote:I have given L_O_G's 10 positive feedbacks to leadcounsel for a job well done.

And with that, I rest my case.

sinus211 wrote:

usrifle wrote:LC? Your case is lost....your Victim status doesn't exist, your "Stats" don't support your case and you have no position left except to argue for the sake of arguing.

To expend the amount of time and energy you have with something you "don't care about" just makes it that much worse.

You have achieved K7ALPHABET status, Congratulations, That took some work.

I feel like LC being a white middle class male lawyer does afford him some degree of victim status. That's quite possibly the most hated group you could be in.

I don't play the victim card, and haven't. But yeah, I'm the most left wing hated group in America: A white male Christian gun-owning lawyer and Army combat veteran who doesn't believe in global warming or trannies in the service.

"After 4 pages of personal attacks"...I dont play the victim card and havent.

I realize your Randall Cunningham references was a "look over here" because your earlier points had been refuted, but I just can't let this nonsense pass:

"Cunningham did more with less..."

The 1988 team that you say 'he' turned around had Jerome Brown, Reggie White, Mike Golic, Mike Quick, Keith Byars, Eric Allen , Terry Hoage, etc., No one would say HE turned the team around, especially when they were know as one of the great defenses of all time.

And the team he was on in Minnesota HAD 10 HALL OF FAMERS on it. Even went 15-1 and couldn't get it done.

Saying he did more with less is preposterous both in theory, and in fact.

NWGunner wrote:I realize your Randall Cunningham references was a "look over here" because your earlier points had been refuted, but I just can't let this nonsense pass:

"Cunningham did more with less..."

The 1988 team that you say 'he' turned around had Jerome Brown, Reggie White, Mike Golic, Mike Quick, Keith Byars, Eric Allen , Terry Hoage, etc., No one would say HE turned the team around, especially when they were know as one of the great defenses of all time.

And the team he was on in Minnesota HAD 10 HALL OF FAMERS on it. Even went 15-1 and couldn't get it done.

Saying he did more with less is preposterous both in theory, and in fact.

Dont forget Chris Carter was on that Eagles team also. I didnt even respond to that post because it was full of complete jackassery.

L_O_G wrote:

NWGunner wrote:I realize your Randall Cunningham references was a "look over here" because your earlier points had been refuted, but I just can't let this nonsense pass:

"Cunningham did more with less..."

The 1988 team that you say 'he' turned around had Jerome Brown, Reggie White, Mike Golic, Mike Quick, Keith Byars, Eric Allen , Terry Hoage, etc., No one would say HE turned the team around, especially when they were know as one of the great defenses of all time.

And the team he was on in Minnesota HAD 10 HALL OF FAMERS on it. Even went 15-1 and couldn't get it done.

Saying he did more with less is preposterous both in theory, and in fact.

Dont forget Chris Carter was on that Eagles team also. I didnt even respond to that post because it was full of complete jackassery.

Yep, and then they were together again in Minnesota....that one was obvious, but I should've listed it, since it's not obvious rto everyone

And then a silly post about the uniforms....really? Like players control that. The league mandates it, Nike designs it, and some people want to blame the player....

Oh well, I guess when google isn't giving you anything, you resort to...............Teletubbies

NWGunner wrote:I realize your Randall Cunningham references was a "look over here" because your earlier points had been refuted, but I just can't let this nonsense pass:

"Cunningham did more with less..."

The 1988 team that you say 'he' turned around had Jerome Brown, Reggie White, Mike Golic, Mike Quick, Keith Byars, Eric Allen , Terry Hoage, etc., No one would say HE turned the team around, especially when they were know as one of the great defenses of all time.

And the team he was on in Minnesota HAD 10 HALL OF FAMERS on it. Even went 15-1 and couldn't get it done.

Saying he did more with less is preposterous both in theory, and in fact.

Yeah, you made my point for me. Thanks.

The 98 season was in the TWILIGHT of his career, his 14th season, after a serious knee injury and him being replaced and traded.

And yet in 98, after a season ending knee injury, losing a lot of speed and mobility, in his 14th season, Cunningham STILL posted similar figures and QB rating (106) similar to Wilson in his prime (110 rating), now 20 years later... You can't credit or blame a QB or any 1 player for a Super Bowl btw. It's a team effort.

Their PERSONAL BEST season stats, Cunningham as a venerable injured QB in his twilight and Wilson in his prime, are nearly identical in each column.

Cunninhams best personal season was 1998
Wilsons best personal season was 2015

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randall_Cunningham
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/ ... lsRu00.htm

Now, just imagine a younger, faster, non-injured Cunningham as a rookie stepping into that situation with 16 pro-bowlers on the team for the first 5 years. Likely to have also won a SB or two, and had al-time high personal stats.

You completely miss the point, and then try to take credit.....

Keep editing ....LOL.......

NWGunner wrote:You completely miss the point, and then try to take credit.....

No shit. And wasn't he saying that the team sucked? It reminds me of this guy at work, he's a self certified genius, he always knows the right answer and won't listen to your answer because it's wrong. I just ignore his dumbass.

NWGunner wrote:You completely miss the point, and then try to take credit.....

No, I didn't miss the point.

Cunningham, when surrounded by talent, posts essentially the same stats as Wilson.

However at that point, Cunningham was at the END of his natural career, AND he had previously suffered a severe knee injury. And STILL able to post similar stats to Wilson; old and injured. lol.

Mediumrarechicken wrote:

NWGunner wrote:You completely miss the point, and then try to take credit.....

No shit. And wasn't he saying that the team sucked? It reminds me of this guy at work, he's a self certified genius, he always knows the right answer and won't listen to your answer because it's wrong. I just ignore his dumbass.

Yep.

He forgets what he previously presents.

Nobody gives a shit about Cunningham. But he stated that Cunningham was greater than Russ because he had less to work with, and that he single-handedly turned around teams.

I point out all the Hall-of -Famers on bott teams, as many as 10, and that one had one of the best defenses ever.

He then continually edits his posts, and then tries to say I made his point.

But his biggest thing, pages ago, was that Russ only has 1 Super Bowl win, so he's nothing. Not realizing that only 29 QB's have a SB win, and many Hall of Fame Greats, are QB's without a a Super Bowl win.

But he keeps touting Cunningham, as if anyone gives a shit about him, and yet Cunningham has zero Super Bowls, which was a major criteria pages ago.

Then it's Teletubbies & uni colors.

Oh, and talking about sports is for losers, and a waste of time, 'cause he has better things to do.

2 pages on Randall fucking Cunningham.

leadcounsel wrote:

NWGunner wrote:You completely miss the point, and then try to take credit.....

No, I didn't miss the point.

Cunningham, when surrounded by talent, posts essentially the same stats as Wilson.

However at that point, Cunningham was at the END of his natural career, AND he had previously suffered a severe knee injury. And STILL able to post similar stats to Wilson; old and injured. lol.

Wrong again (actually, still...)...

He didn't injure his knee until '91, he had 3 years with one of the best defenses ever, Reggie White, Jerome Brown, great receivers, a better O-line than Wilson has ever had.

That time was what you referenced earlier when you tried to claim 'he solely turned the franchise around'....but you won't admit you were wrong about that, you just change the subject....

Okay, let's pretend you were talking about his Minnesota years, since you are.

He retired for a year & fully rehabbed his knee. Came out of retirement, went to Minnesota & played with 10 pro-bowlers, and still couldn't get it done after a 15-1 season with a great team.

Okay, time to morp-edit-pretend you said something else again......

Back to the regularly scheduled programming....
So the 49er's still suck, Russell Wilson is a play maker and Kaepernick is a pathetic whiny bitch.
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