Democrat scandals and coverups - currently 19

[Jonathan Brown]

Some of the conspiracy garbage isn't exactly intelligent.

[MadPick]

Some of the conspiracy garbage isn't exactly intelligent.

Great. So argue the point and explain why it's garbage.

[RENCORP]

Politics is dead - flush the party system.

Representation of your constituent voters only, at local, state and federal levels.

Corporate money and lobbying banished forever.

No campaign fund raising again, ever.

Government has media donate press, air, and tv time of X only for voters to get to know a bit about their possible representatives.

Citizenship mandatory for voting.

Felony 10 years hard labor no parole minimum sentence for any criminal act while acting as a representative of the people.

There's a start.

All Trump is, is a game changer - a catalyst for change, and one tiny step better than any of the establishment R's and D's that were grasping for power otherwise.

Lets all hope for the best - it's all we got at this point.

Oh, make fake news a felony as well.

[RENCORP]

Some of the conspiracy garbage isn't exactly intelligent.

John - stop labelling, and start expounding, because it is a disingenuous argument lacking substance.

Come up with some solutions instead of creating issues.

[Jonathan Brown]

Because it is just a diversion. Mueller us the scariest man on the planet to the Trump worshippers. When the subpoenas are issued and making statements under oath, we shall see how hard Trumps group has worked to obstruct and divert. The ultra right wing media can't stand seeing their boy under fire. I'll kiss everyone's ass who disagrees with me if Mueller finds no wrongdoing.

[OhShoot!]

Because it is just a diversion. Mueller us the scariest man on the planet to the Trump worshippers. When the subpoenas are issued and making statements under oath, we shall see how hard Trumps group has worked to obstruct and divert. The ultra right wing media can't stand seeing their boy under fire. I'll kiss everyone's ass who disagrees with me if Mueller finds no wrongdoing.

Ha yup. I'll eat crow, but not kiss ass. Lol

[Pablo]

Because it is just a diversion. Mueller us the scariest man on the planet to the Trump worshippers. When the subpoenas are issued and making statements under oath, we shall see how hard Trumps group has worked to obstruct and divert. The ultra right wing media can't stand seeing their boy under fire. I'll kiss everyone's ass who disagrees with me if Mueller finds no wrongdoing.

That actually makes little sense.

A) You build this on CNN/ABC straw men.
B) "ultra right wing" doesn't even like trump.
C) And of course Mueller will find the Russians tried. So there is already wrong doing. But why don't you specifically define the wrong doing? (see A and start over again)

Jon - main problem are your sources. You don't post any. So you come across as a CNN/ABC bot. This is NOT personal, but you post no evidence. So we must take you very lightly.

[Jonathan Brown]

Some of the conspiracy garbage isn't exactly intelligent.

John - stop labelling, and start expounding, because it is a disingenuous argument lacking substance.

Come up with some solutions instead of creating issues.

Solutions? How about letting Mueller complete the investigation? How about quit trying to discredit a career law enforcement guy who is probably the most impartial person possible for the job? How about informing the President that there are actually THREE branches of government? How about stop calling everything negative about Trump fake news and just let the media do their job? How about releasing his tax returns to show that he has nothing to hide? Trump has the power to end all this fairly quickly. If he really does have nothing to hide, why doesn't he? Why the big scramble to misdirect to Hillary issues that have nothing to do with this investigation?

[Pablo]

Some of the conspiracy garbage isn't exactly intelligent.

Great. So argue the point and explain why it's garbage.

Been waiting a couple days. Most likely I will bow out, because this isn't a discussion really.

[RENCORP]

Current media generated problem, based on Russia hydrophobia investigated for over a year now with no tangible results to show, despite " seventeen secret squirrel intelligence agencies hard at work.........." - still not a solution.

Any take on why the press is so quiet on the FOIA release of Lynch's e-mails, Weiner's e-mails, Polestar's e-mails, Project Veritas videos showing Democratic party executive level staff outing themselves throwing elections, Wassermann-Schultz and her Pakistani computer staff thieves practicing espionage on her and fifty or so other high end senators, et fucking cetera ?

C'mon, John, get creative, put your melon to work, and show me what you got.

[PMB]

Politics is dead - flush the party system.

Representation of your constituent voters only, at local, state and federal levels.

Corporate money and lobbying banished forever.

No campaign fund raising again, ever.

Government has media donate press, air, and tv time of X only for voters to get to know a bit about their possible representatives.

Citizenship mandatory for voting.

Felony 10 years hard labor no parole minimum sentence for any criminal act while acting as a representative of the people.

There's a start.

All Trump is, is a game changer - a catalyst for change, and one tiny step better than any of the establishment R's and D's that were grasping for power otherwise.

Lets all hope for the best - it's all we got at this point.

Oh, make fake news a felony as well.

Sound reasoning from our Canuckian Invader. I like that.
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What I believe WILL happen with special prosecutors isn't really worth anyone else getting worked up about it...

People get worked up about politics (who KNEW?!)
That's not actually true though, is it? Usually. What seems to to be the pathway to anger and such is when disparaging descriptors are used towards people who believe differently.

We used to have the List of Logical Fallacies brought up as a reminder of how to disagree in such a way as to get your point across well.
If you simply want to throw insults, we're obligated to clean it up and take a short vacation from your wisdom.

Here's a pretty good list from our friends to the East.
https://www.webpages.uidaho.edu/eng207- ... lacies.htm

[Jonathan Brown]

Because it is just a diversion. Mueller us the scariest man on the planet to the Trump worshippers. When the subpoenas are issued and making statements under oath, we shall see how hard Trumps group has worked to obstruct and divert. The ultra right wing media can't stand seeing their boy under fire. I'll kiss everyone's ass who disagrees with me if Mueller finds no wrongdoing.

That actually makes little sense.

A) You build this on CNN/ABC straw men.
B) "ultra right wing" doesn't even like trump.
C) And of course Mueller will find the Russians tried. So there is already wrong doing. But why don't you specifically define the wrong doing? (see A and start over again)

Jon - main problem are your sources. You don't post any. So you come across as a CNN/ABC bot. This is NOT personal, but you post no evidence. So we must take you very lightly.

Take me as lightly as you like. You are defending a president who is most likely going to be impeached for a coverup, at the very least. My offer will remain open until Mueller releases his findings. If Trump manages to fire him, the next man up will do the same thing. Trump is losing the GOP, as evidenced by the recent Russia sanctions. He will completely lose them if he fires Mueller, or has Sessions do it.

[RENCORP]

Because it is just a diversion. Mueller us the scariest man on the planet to the Trump worshippers. When the subpoenas are issued and making statements under oath, we shall see how hard Trumps group has worked to obstruct and divert. The ultra right wing media can't stand seeing their boy under fire. I'll kiss everyone's ass who disagrees with me if Mueller finds no wrongdoing.

That actually makes little sense.

A) You build this on CNN/ABC straw men.
B) "ultra right wing" doesn't even like trump.
C) And of course Mueller will find the Russians tried. So there is already wrong doing. But why don't you specifically define the wrong doing? (see A and start over again)

Jon - main problem are your sources. You don't post any. So you come across as a CNN/ABC bot. This is NOT personal, but you post no evidence. So we must take you very lightly.

Take me as lightly as you like. You are defending a president who is most likely going to be impeached for a coverup, at the very least. My offer will remain open until Mueller releases his findings. If Trump manages to fire him, the next man up will do the same thing. Trump is losing the GOP, as evidenced by the recent Russia sanctions. He will completely lose them if he fires Mueller, or has Sessions do it.

I liked you better as Steve McQueen.

This demonic possession you are currently suffering is unacceptable.

OUT, DAMMED SPOT, AND LET STEVE RETURN !!!!

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[Pablo]

Evidence of cover up is?

[Jonathan Brown]

Evidence of cover up is?

It will all be revealed. When people are under oath, their lies will have consequences.

Firing Comey was only the beginning of his attempt at a coverup.

None of us has EVIDENCE of anything. EVIDENCE is obtained under oath and through investigation. EVIDENCE doesn't come from Breibart or MSNBC or some jackwagons of internet forums. Words on a webpage are not EVIDENCE either.

The leakers may also be guilty of crimes. But what they leak is not rendered false because of that.