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Duke EB
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Location: maple valley Joined: Mon May 6, 2013 Posts: 2578
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do you ever post about guns, or is it all just political?
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| Tue Aug 08, 2017 11:27 am |
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Guns4Liberty
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Duke EB wrote: do you ever post about guns, or is it all just political? How about addressing his point and not making it personal?
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| Tue Aug 08, 2017 11:28 am |
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dreadi
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Location: Tacoma, Washington Joined: Fri Nov 21, 2014 Posts: 8614
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OhShoot! wrote: Lesson here is, think twice before releasing that scathing internal manifesto. What if I write a Open Letter to the members of WAGUNS, stating my personal views, lack of confidence in the leadership, its morally bankrupt members, while calling out a few specific people for the garbage they constantly post? Do you think I'll get a vacation or win the jackpot at the annual holiday giveaway?
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| Tue Aug 08, 2017 11:37 am |
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Duke EB
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Location: maple valley Joined: Mon May 6, 2013 Posts: 2578
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Guns4Liberty wrote: Duke EB wrote: do you ever post about guns, or is it all just political? How about addressing his point and not making it personal? My point remains. If it was hobby lobby or some other right wing place, he'd be cheering. The personal question remains as well.
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| Tue Aug 08, 2017 11:39 am |
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bigzdawg
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Location: East of Lake Washington Joined: Mon Jan 21, 2013 Posts: 1864
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dreadi wrote: OhShoot! wrote: Lesson here is, think twice before releasing that scathing internal manifesto. What if I write a Open Letter to the members of WAGUNS, stating my personal views, lack of confidence in the leadership, its morally bankrupt members, while calling out a few specific people for the garbage they constantly post? Do you think I'll get a vacation or win the jackpot at the annual holiday giveaway? If it is important to you, why not try and find out? My guess is that you would have a hell of a lot better chance than that Google employee. Did you peruse what the Google guy actually wrote? It wasn't very controversial. My personal belief is that any censorship, short of immediate harm to people ("fire" in a crowded theater), is anti-Constitutional. The more that you say, the better chance I know what you really think and what is important to you. This Google example is the opposite, purge anyone who doesn't drink the Koolaid.
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| Tue Aug 08, 2017 11:43 am |
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bigzdawg
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Duke EB wrote: Guns4Liberty wrote: Duke EB wrote: do you ever post about guns, or is it all just political? How about addressing his point and not making it personal? My point remains. If it was hobby lobby or some other right wing place, he'd be cheering. The personal question remains as well. I answered your Hobby Lobby example earlier. Hobby Lobby, unlike Google, did not fire someone because of political beliefs. As for your political question, two things. I have posted about guns many times and will continue to do so. Why do I post the political? Easy. Because ultimately, that is the reason the 2nd Amendment exists. The only time in my life that we as a society are close to collapsing was 1968-69, and we are IMO closer to that than at any time since. Proof? Look at the historically high sales of firearms over the last decade. With Trump winning, look at the anti-gun left arming themselves in record numbers. That isn't me talking, that is millions of my fellow citizens spending hundreds, or thousands of dollars to get armed. Do you think it is for hunting? You aren't that naive, are you?
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| Tue Aug 08, 2017 11:53 am |
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Guns4Liberty
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Location: Lynnwood/Bothell Joined: Thu Jul 31, 2014 Posts: 8688
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Duke EB wrote: Guns4Liberty wrote: Duke EB wrote: do you ever post about guns, or is it all just political? How about addressing his point and not making it personal? My point remains. If it was hobby lobby or some other right wing place, he'd be cheering. The personal question remains as well. You're projecting that onto him, which is unfair. But, more importantly, you're deflecting from the main issue here. Instead of talking about the Google situation, you're deflecting to Hobby Lobby, and a hypothetical situation at that. It's petty, irrelevant, and illogical. How about telling us what you think about the story in the OP?
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| Tue Aug 08, 2017 11:55 am |
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Duke EB
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Location: maple valley Joined: Mon May 6, 2013 Posts: 2578
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bigzdawg wrote: Duke EB wrote: Guns4Liberty wrote: Duke EB wrote: do you ever post about guns, or is it all just political? How about addressing his point and not making it personal? My point remains. If it was hobby lobby or some other right wing place, he'd be cheering. The personal question remains as well. I answered your Hobby Lobby example earlier. Hobby Lobby, unlike Google, did not fire someone because of political beliefs. As for your political question, two things. I have posted about guns many times and will continue to do so. Why do I post the political? Easy. Because ultimately, that is the reason the 2nd Amendment exists. The only time in my life that we as a society are close to collapsing was 1968-69, and we are IMO closer to that than at any time since. Proof? Look at the historically high sales of firearms over the last decade. With Trump winning, look at the anti-gun left arming themselves in record numbers. That isn't me talking, that is millions of my fellow citizens spending hundreds, or thousands of dollars to get armed. Do you think it is for hunting? You aren't that naive, are you? Whether hobby lobby did or did not is not the point. 1st amendment rights don't exist in private companies or private forums. That's just a fact. The last decade has been the pro gun people buying. the left only started buying after Trump got elected, and the numbers are way below what the pro gun people (not right or left) have been doing for the last decade. I probably have spent 50k on guns/ammo/reloading in the last 5 years myself. When did you post about guns? Show me a link
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| Tue Aug 08, 2017 11:58 am |
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Duke EB
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Location: maple valley Joined: Mon May 6, 2013 Posts: 2578
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Guns4Liberty wrote: Duke EB wrote: Guns4Liberty wrote: Duke EB wrote: do you ever post about guns, or is it all just political? How about addressing his point and not making it personal? My point remains. If it was hobby lobby or some other right wing place, he'd be cheering. The personal question remains as well. You're projecting that onto him, which is unfair. But, more importantly, you're deflecting from the main issue here. Instead of talking about the Google situation, you're deflecting to Hobby Lobby, and a hypothetical situation at that. It's petty, irrelevant, and illogical. How about telling us what you think about the story in the OP? It's standard procedure for any large company, especially when it is a controversial topic. First amendment rights don't exist in private companies and forums. In my view, he brought it on himself. He "Jerry Maguired" himself out of a job. I do find it humorous to be honest, especially the reaction here. The reaction I see here is pure hypocrisy in my opinion.
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Alpine
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_________________If you vote for Biden you are voting to be murdered when he sends Beto to come take your "semi automatic assault weapon" (any semi auto). If you have family or friends voting for Biden show them this and ask if they are willing to vote for your murder or maybe even their own if they are gun owners or live with any. https://nypost.com/2020/03/03/joe-biden ... n-control/Quote: “I want to make something clear, I’m going to guarantee you this is not the last you’ve seen of him (Beto),” Biden said Monday evening during a campaign rally in Dallas. “You’re (Beto) going to take care of the gun problem with me. You’re (Beto) going to be the one who leads this effort.” https://www.newsweek.com/beto-orourke-g ... ns-1465738Quote: [Beto O'Rourke Suggests Police Would 'Visit' Homes To Implement Proposed Assault Weapons Ban] "In that case, I think that there would be a visit by law enforcement to recover that firearm... ..."If someone does not turn in an AR-15 or an AK-47, one of these weapons of war...then that weapon will be taken from them"
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| Tue Aug 08, 2017 12:06 pm |
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dreadi
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Location: Tacoma, Washington Joined: Fri Nov 21, 2014 Posts: 8614
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Society is closer to collapsing when compared the late 60's? OOOOOOOOOH SNAP! Let's see here. I can whistle at a white woman and not get killed. Actually I married two of them and no one cared. I can freely buy and make guns without being concerned about the Klan showing up. I go out hunting with white folks and don't have to be concerned about not coming up from a neck tie party. I'm doing better financially and professionally than 90% of my family was at the same age and time of their lives. Nah. We're doing just fine.
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Duke EB
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Location: maple valley Joined: Mon May 6, 2013 Posts: 2578
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Only the first can be remotely construed as being "about guns" in a recreational/nonpolitical sense. Keep looking!
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Alpine
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Duke EB wrote: Only the first can be remotely construed as being "about guns" in a recreational/nonpolitical sense. Keep looking! Quote: When did you post about guns? Show me a link Quote: 7. Computers. an object, as text or graphics, linked through hypertext to a document, another object, etc. You asked for one, I gave you 5. You admitted at least one was correct. Are you now asking for more than 1?
_________________If you vote for Biden you are voting to be murdered when he sends Beto to come take your "semi automatic assault weapon" (any semi auto). If you have family or friends voting for Biden show them this and ask if they are willing to vote for your murder or maybe even their own if they are gun owners or live with any. https://nypost.com/2020/03/03/joe-biden ... n-control/Quote: “I want to make something clear, I’m going to guarantee you this is not the last you’ve seen of him (Beto),” Biden said Monday evening during a campaign rally in Dallas. “You’re (Beto) going to take care of the gun problem with me. You’re (Beto) going to be the one who leads this effort.” https://www.newsweek.com/beto-orourke-g ... ns-1465738Quote: [Beto O'Rourke Suggests Police Would 'Visit' Homes To Implement Proposed Assault Weapons Ban] "In that case, I think that there would be a visit by law enforcement to recover that firearm... ..."If someone does not turn in an AR-15 or an AK-47, one of these weapons of war...then that weapon will be taken from them"
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foothills
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dreadi wrote: Society is closer to collapsing when compared the late 60's? OOOOOOOOOH SNAP! Let's see here. I can whistle at a white woman and not get killed. Actually I married two of them and no one cared. I can freely buy and make guns without being concerned about the Klan showing up. I go out hunting with white folks and don't have to be concerned about not coming up from a neck tie party. I'm doing better financially and professionally than 90% of my family was at the same age and time of their lives. Nah. We're doing just fine. Dreadi...YOU just made this thread about race...on a personal level. 
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Duke EB
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Location: maple valley Joined: Mon May 6, 2013 Posts: 2578
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Alpine wrote: Duke EB wrote: Only the first can be remotely construed as being "about guns" in a recreational/nonpolitical sense. Keep looking! Quote: When did you post about guns? Show me a link Quote: 7. Computers. an object, as text or graphics, linked through hypertext to a document, another object, etc. You asked for one, I gave you 5. You admitted at least one was correct. Are you now asking for more than 1? No, I did not admit that. Was "remotely construed" unclear? Clue: It's tangentially related, but not directly. So, keep trying.
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