What do you think he was referring to about the late 60's? Grits vs Oatmeal?

Those are different statements. The first is devoid of a limiting qualifier in the way that is now being added after the fact to move the goalposts.

Nope. What I should have said was "non political" posts about guns. Ammo cufflinks are not guns. None of those are non political gun posts. With that in mind, can you find any? I bet not.

No, in reality what you "should" have done was not make a personal attack against him, I was simply demonstrating that your statement about him was misleading, even by your own recent admission.

How about we just be civil and stick to discussing points and when debates ensue we don't make it personal?

You missed my entire point.

People don't spend hundreds or thousands of dollars on something "just because". Now you and I spend money on guns, ammo, and accessories because we want to. We like guns. But the anti-Trumpers and leftists? Have they suddenly become gun enthusiasts? Virtually none of them have.

They are buying guns for defense purposes. It is because they fear their future, rationally or irrationally. But their actions are real, and the hundreds of dollars they never thought they would have used to buy a gun are real dollars that in previous years would have been spent on something else. Leftists buying guns in quantity is a radical action, IMO, not previously witnessed at least in my lifetime. Why is it happening?

Hence the real reason for the 2A, the left is just starting to figure out what we have known since we are kids about guns. Yes hunting and target practice, but also protection.

50k in 5 years? See, some leftists would say you are a menace to society and need to be rooted out for the good of society.

I would say you have a better collection than I have and I am envious.

Really? That wasn't civil? It was and is a fair question. You still haven't found one yet.

Same thing for the right in the Obama years.
I probably am a menace to society haha :) Once I get into something, I really get into it.
Don't forget competition, that's a huge motivation for me.

Yeah get on topic guys.

If you can articulate your viewpoint and back it up with facts, I'd appreciate it, even if I disagree. Might make you some enemies, but at least you'll know who they are.... Things won't change if everyone keeps saying how great everyone is doing....

Oh great, one of those crazy polygamists..

zing. lol

The real point here is that the left claims they value diversity until they don't. And since they are in charge, they set the rules. Think Russia, China, NK, except dick removal surgery is on the house......

Work has never been a democracy, the left is working on the nation.

Y'all better simmer down, or zombie66 is gonna start handing out vacations and he'll probably lock this thread too.

Personally, I get really uncomfortable whenever someone states that everything should be numerically equitable between sexes, races, etc. If Google has 40% female employees (I'm making that up), should 40% of the management be female? Same with race, religion, etc.?

If 40% of our population is black, should black folks get 40% of the speeding tickets and 40% of the homicide arrests, no more and no less?

There ARE differences between people, whether it's genetic, or due to the way we live, or whatever. We're never going to be exactly equal. Thus, I hate it when it's implied that we're doing something wrong as a culture when something is disproportional. Disproportionate salary/arrests/whatever might indicate that there's something worth looking at, but in itself isn't fundamentally wrong.

We are all different. Some fuqers have hair until the are really old. Over 40 even.