And — but I’m telling you is that, once these — once you start seeing missile launches, you’re going to see...
Um....what has Kim been doing for the last couple months?
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Re: North Korea and Missile capable nukes? New report
Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 6:06 am
by PMB
The decades long gradual slide from "We're all Americans" to "We're Democrats, Republicans are EVIL" (and vice versa) is especially troublesome when there is a possibility of military action. I don't like bluster and threats from ANYone, especially not from the USA. I lean towards quiet diplomacy until a predetermined decision point is reached then the big stick comes out.
"Speak softly and carry a big stick" Theodore Roosevelt
Re: North Korea and Missile capable nukes? New report
Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 6:11 am
by AR15L
PMB wrote:The decades long gradual slide from "We're all Americans" to "We're Democrats, Republicans are EVIL" (and vice versa) is especially troublesome when there is a possibility of military action. I don't like bluster and threats from ANYone, especially not from the USA. I lean towards quiet diplomacy until a predetermined decision point is reached then the big stick comes out.
"Speak softly and carry a big stick" Theodore Roosevelt
So you were OK with Barry not even saying shit to the NK and hiding all of this from the public, ie soft spoken, vs our current prez coming out with a clear message?
Re: North Korea and Missile capable nukes? New report
Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 6:13 am
by PMB
AR15L wrote:
PMB wrote:The decades long gradual slide from "We're all Americans" to "We're Democrats, Republicans are EVIL" (and vice versa) is especially troublesome when there is a possibility of military action. I don't like bluster and threats from ANYone, especially not from the USA. I lean towards quiet diplomacy until a predetermined decision point is reached then the big stick comes out.
"Speak softly and carry a big stick" Theodore Roosevelt
So you were OK with Barry not even saying shit to the NK and hiding all of this from the public, ie soft spoken, vs our current prez coming out with a clear message?
WTF is up with all this Strawman argument stuff? It's kind of humorous, but is there such a great need to search for an error in someone else's position that we need to rephrase their words to be able to cut them down to size?
Re: North Korea and Missile capable nukes? New report
Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 6:14 am
by AR15L
PMB wrote:
AR15L wrote:
PMB wrote:The decades long gradual slide from "We're all Americans" to "We're Democrats, Republicans are EVIL" (and vice versa) is especially troublesome when there is a possibility of military action. I don't like bluster and threats from ANYone, especially not from the USA. I lean towards quiet diplomacy until a predetermined decision point is reached then the big stick comes out.
"Speak softly and carry a big stick" Theodore Roosevelt
So you were OK with Barry not even saying shit to the NK and hiding all of this from the public, ie soft spoken, vs our current prez coming out with a clear message?
WTF is up with all this Strawman argument stuff? It's kind of humorous, but is there such a great need to search for an error in someone else's position that we need to rephrase their words to be able to cut them down to size?
Re: North Korea and Missile capable nukes? New report
Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 6:23 am
by PMB
AR15L wrote:
PMB wrote:WTF is up with all this Strawman argument stuff? It's kind of humorous, but is there such a great need to search for an error in someone else's position that we need to rephrase their words to be able to cut them down to size?
You got me if you were fishing for a "WTF?!" from me Rick.
No, I think that the whole world should have done something about NK a few decades ago.
Re: North Korea and Missile capable nukes? New report
Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 6:48 am
by jukk0u
Nothing new here. Just a difference in delivery
Re: North Korea and Missile capable nukes? New report
Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 8:11 am
by Selador
PMB wrote:WTF is up with all this Strawman argument stuff? It's kind of humorous, but is there such a great need to search for an error in someone else's position that we need to rephrase their words to be able to cut them down to size?
Been wondering the same thing myself.
Re: North Korea and Missile capable nukes? New report
Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 2:37 pm
by L_O_G
We need to make sure the little fat chubby one has the latest updated map. Can someone please forward it to him?
Re: North Korea and Missile capable nukes? New report
Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 4:29 pm
by PMB
I raffed... ^ I love the state... Just hate the controllist politics. California without the cities would be close to paradise.
Re: North Korea and Missile capable nukes? New report
Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 5:07 pm
by GeekWithGuns
Me too ^^ Maybe we can convince Kim Jong Un to bomb Sacramento We could call it a weenie roast but there are too many vegans, vegetarians, and granola munchers there to qualify.
Re: North Korea and Missile capable nukes? New report
Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 5:09 pm
by Alpine
We cannot wait for Kim to shoot first. He openly bragged about sending multiple missiles simultaneously to the same spot in order to confuse our interceptor tracking technology.
Re: North Korea and Missile capable nukes? New report
Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 5:14 pm
by GeekWithGuns
Alpine wrote:We cannot wait for Kim to shoot first. He openly bragged about sending multiple missiles simultaneously to the same spot in order to confuse our interceptor tracking technology.
Preaching to the choir. I can't see waiting for several hundred thousand of our fellow citizens to get roasted before we act. There's a big can of whoop-ass that's gonna open up real soon. The Germans might have invented the blitzkrieg concept of coordinated warfare but we have perfected it since then. Kim's gonna be neck deep in the hurt locker before long.
Even the Chinese are starting to sweat. Saw an article today that they're rushing to implement the new sanctions against NK. Not that it will do any good after years of creating this mess by aiding and abetting their client state.
Re: North Korea and Missile capable nukes? New report
Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 5:50 pm
by Selador
GeekWithGuns wrote:
Alpine wrote:We cannot wait for Kim to shoot first. He openly bragged about sending multiple missiles simultaneously to the same spot in order to confuse our interceptor tracking technology.
Preaching to the choir. I can't see waiting for several hundred thousand of our fellow citizens to get roasted before we act. There's a big can of whoop-ass that's gonna open up real soon. The Germans might have invented the blitzkrieg concept of coordinated warfare but we have perfected it since then. Kim's gonna be neck deep in the hurt locker before long.
Even the Chinese are starting to sweat. Saw an article today that they're rushing to implement the new sanctions against NK. Not that it will do any good after years of creating this mess by aiding and abetting their client state.
China is also saying that bad relations between the US and NK should not equate to less economic trade between China and US.
Don't know if you know it, but getting even a statement like that one, from the Chinese is like pulling teeth. They know it shows a vulnerability. They need trade with us.
They must really be sweating that one, by now. (Or else they would not have made such a statement.)
But I'm still in the camp that says China has been playing NK against us for a long time. I guess they just want us to keep sending our money their way, as long as possible...