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OhShoot!
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bbc: "Federal agents are said to have seized files and other material on 26 July, a day after Mr Manafort voluntarily met the Senate Intelligence Committee. Mr Manafort left the Trump campaign over questions about his foreign ties. The FBI is leading one of several investigations into alleged Russian meddling in last year's US election. Special counsel Robert Mueller, who heads up the FBI investigation, left Mr Manafort's Alexandria home with "various records", the Washington Post reported." Read more below: http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/ ... -residencehttp://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40879798
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RENCORP
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I'll bet they find nothing but boring.
Candles uranium deal, or Haiti refugee rip off bucks investigation ?
Probably not.
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OhShoot!
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RENCORP wrote: I'll bet they find nothing but boring.
Candles uranium deal, or Haiti refugee rip off bucks investigation ?
Probably not. yeah, they probably just needed to borrow a cup of sugar. Nothing to see here.
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Alpine
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_________________If you vote for Biden you are voting to be murdered when he sends Beto to come take your "semi automatic assault weapon" (any semi auto). If you have family or friends voting for Biden show them this and ask if they are willing to vote for your murder or maybe even their own if they are gun owners or live with any. https://nypost.com/2020/03/03/joe-biden ... n-control/Quote: “I want to make something clear, I’m going to guarantee you this is not the last you’ve seen of him (Beto),” Biden said Monday evening during a campaign rally in Dallas. “You’re (Beto) going to take care of the gun problem with me. You’re (Beto) going to be the one who leads this effort.” https://www.newsweek.com/beto-orourke-g ... ns-1465738Quote: [Beto O'Rourke Suggests Police Would 'Visit' Homes To Implement Proposed Assault Weapons Ban] "In that case, I think that there would be a visit by law enforcement to recover that firearm... ..."If someone does not turn in an AR-15 or an AK-47, one of these weapons of war...then that weapon will be taken from them"
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bigzdawg
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Something does not add up here.
Mannafort is a cooperating witness. Raids are seldom if ever done on cooperating witnesses, hence the word "cooperating".
The raid was on July 26. Today is August 9. Not a word until this morning. Hmmm, what was a big news item yesterday?
Norks have 60 miniaturized warheads that fit in missiles. Trump came out with hard words. Most believe this shows strength. Press melted down all day yesterday.
Now, suddenly, there was a NEW leak that was published in the WSJ about the old raid, yet it was reported by all of the press this morning as it just happened. Only in longer published stories did we find that it happened 2 weeks ago.
WHY?
Because the press cannot dare to allow Trump to look presidential. Standing up to an enemy makes Trump look good. The Deep State and Press whores can't allow that to happen.
Gotta get some more Russian BS on the screen, change the theme away from Trump looking good, keep the lies alive.
Are you beginning to see how the Press is manipulating the news for Trump's detriment?
EDIT: The reason for this raid is very obvious. The Meuller/Buehler FBI is going after Manafort for a procedural conviction.
Commonly known as a Martha Stewart conviction.
Ask the same questions to Manafort 20 separate times over weeks or months. Find a single instance he did not perfectly repeat every single detail. The one he gets wrong, that is "the crime" and is prosecuted for that as obstruction of justice.
Now, they will go to Manafort and threaten him with jail time unless he "turns" on Trump and testifies that Trump broke laws.
This is as obvious a call as giving the ball to your outstanding, hot running back on the 1 yard line who has been blowing out the defensive line for the winning play in the Super Bowl.
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jackass
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Where are the John Podesta raids? What about the missing emails? What about the selling of uranium to Russia? What about Seth Rich?
This is a soft coup against a popularly elected President.
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Trump and his team continue to be investigated with the might of the Special Prosecutor and Congress and the FBI for jaywalking for a year.
Meanwhile we have the head of the Obama era DOJ meeting with the husband of a criminal suspect, the Clintons, who lie about the reason for the meeting. Mrs. Clinton broke about a dozen serious laws/felonies/federal offenses. They have a trail of dirty money from a host of foreign nations... And the corrupt DOJ and FBI heads refused to do anything about it allowing her to run for POTUS. Obama tells illegals to go ahead and vote. The MSM props up Hillary with lies and false news.
If there is ANY wrongdoing and election tampering it's right there!!!!!
And crickets on all of that.
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dusty
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They, are just protecting, the Elites , "Racketeering Empire"....by any means
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OhShoot!
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From now forward let's discuss the issue, and not how we think other politicians have broken the law previously. Totally unrelated. Totally unnecessary red herring arguments. I know it's difficult for some of you here. 
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Alpine
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It's directly related because it's a violation of the 14th Amendment, equal treatment under the law.
Trump was elected because he was different than the entrenched political class. The fact that they are using the levers of government to go after him in ways that they never went after the political elites is absolutely relevant to this discussion.
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OhShoot!
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Alpine wrote: It's directly related because it's a violation of the 14th Amendment, equal treatment under the law.
Trump was elected because he was different than the entrenched political class. The fact that they are using the levers of government to go after him in ways that they never went after the political elites is absolutely relevant to this discussion. You can not even wrap your mind around the possibility that Trump or his team may have done something illegal? A real patriot would at least suss out the facts of the case. If he did no wrong, then he has nothing to worry about. I hope that he or his team did no wrong. I want Trump to succeed as president, and not fail. Although he is a DB i still believe the country needs leadership. Let's let the facts come out as they are dug up by the proper authorities. Seems reasonable to me.
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Alpine
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OhShoot! wrote: Alpine wrote: It's directly related because it's a violation of the 14th Amendment, equal treatment under the law.
Trump was elected because he was different than the entrenched political class. The fact that they are using the levers of government to go after him in ways that they never went after the political elites is absolutely relevant to this discussion. You can not even wrap your mind around the possibility that Trump or his team may have done something illegal? A real patriot would at least suss out the facts of the case. If he did no wrong, then he has nothing to worry about. I hope that he or his team did no wrong. I want Trump to succeed as president, and not fail. Although he is a DB i still believe the country needs leadership. Let's let the facts come out as they are dug up by the proper authorities. Seems reasonable to me. Except he's been investigated for over a year, and by some counts, 18 months. If there was something there they would have found it, or they are too inept to investigate anything. Obama poured the resources of multiple law enforcement organizations into this. Mueller has a huge team of dozens of people. What is taking so long? It's clear this is political. The jury was impaneled in DC despite many reasons not to have it there, many of the investigators are DNC donors, etc. If they wanted the public to trust the outcome of the investigation it would have been: -done by now -done by NON-partisan investigators As it is, it is tainted. It's clear they want to drag the investigation to the 2018 midterms or maybe all the way to 2020. Completely ridiculous. If and when Trump wins reelection they will probably try dragging it to 2024. People are guaranteed equal treatment under the law as well as speedy process. Trump has received neither. Meanwhile real crimes are being ignored for this facade.
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OhShoot! wrote: From now forward let's discuss the issue, and not how we think other politicians have broken the law previously. Totally unrelated. Totally unnecessary red herring arguments. I know it's difficult for some of you here.  They are doing no different than you and others have done for 8 years when anything was brought up that could put Obama or other Democrats in a bad light. Pot, meet kettle.
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OhShoot!
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Jagerbomber35 wrote: OhShoot! wrote: From now forward let's discuss the issue, and not how we think other politicians have broken the law previously. Totally unrelated. Totally unnecessary red herring arguments. I know it's difficult for some of you here.  They are doing no different than you and others have done for 8 years when anything was brought up that could put Obama or other Democrats in a bad light. Pot, meet kettle. Nope. I disagree completely. Find me proof of your accusation please (in my posts). You are doing exactly what I asked not to do a few posts above. Edit: I've been saying the same thing all along. If there is a proven crime, then that person should serve time. R or D, doesn't matter to me.
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OhShoot!
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Alpine wrote: OhShoot! wrote: Alpine wrote: It's directly related because it's a violation of the 14th Amendment, equal treatment under the law.
Trump was elected because he was different than the entrenched political class. The fact that they are using the levers of government to go after him in ways that they never went after the political elites is absolutely relevant to this discussion. You can not even wrap your mind around the possibility that Trump or his team may have done something illegal? A real patriot would at least suss out the facts of the case. If he did no wrong, then he has nothing to worry about. I hope that he or his team did no wrong. I want Trump to succeed as president, and not fail. Although he is a DB i still believe the country needs leadership. Let's let the facts come out as they are dug up by the proper authorities. Seems reasonable to me. Except he's been investigated for over a year, and by some counts, 18 months. If there was something there they would have found it, or they are too inept to investigate anything. Obama poured the resources of multiple law enforcement organizations into this. Mueller has a huge team of dozens of people. What is taking so long? It's clear this is political. The jury was impaneled in DC despite many reasons not to have it there, many of the investigators are DNC donors, etc. If they wanted the public to trust the outcome of the investigation it would have been: -done by now -done by NON-partisan investigators As it is, it is tainted. It's clear they want to drag the investigation to the 2018 midterms or maybe all the way to 2020. Completely ridiculous. If and when Trump wins reelection they will probably try dragging it to 2024. People are guaranteed equal treatment under the law as well as speedy process. Trump has received neither. Meanwhile real crimes are being ignored for this facade. Are you saying that law enforcement is partisan? FBI, CIA, NSA? They are the agencies doing the investigations, and not the DNC. You don't trust our law enforcement?
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