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Site Supporter   Location: Lacey/Olympia/JBLM Joined: Tue May 10, 2011 Posts: 3197 Real Name: Marco 
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snozzberries wrote: PMB wrote: I have a job for you Rick. C'mere.  lower. lower. lower. right there  _________________ "Dedication, perseverance, commitment and tenacity are the traits you will find in those who finish and achieve their dreams." There are times when the situation as it occurs, dictates the course of actions that follow. "I stand for the National Anthem, always have, always will" On days like this, I often wonder what Gary Gordon and Randy Shughart would do... |
| Sun Aug 13, 2017 8:12 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: Bellingham Canada Joined: Thu Jan 3, 2013 Posts: 4995 Real Name: Josheewa
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Have you tried advertising for work in the Backpage.com ads?
 _________________ It must be frustrating always being the smartest person in the room.-Jagerbomber35 Divided we fall. |
| Sun Aug 13, 2017 8:57 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: Downtown Newcastle Joined: Sat Mar 5, 2016 Posts: 3485 Real Name: Traut
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Screw resumes, cover letters and applications. Make them come to you, Rick.
_________________ I always thought growing old would take a lot longer..... So, when does that "Old enough to know better" shit kick in??? I've learned that pleasing everyone is impossible, but pissing everyone off is a piece of cake. |
| Sun Aug 13, 2017 10:58 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: Central FL Joined: Sun Apr 7, 2013 Posts: 3207
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LinkedIn is also hugely important. The first thing I do after quickly scanning someone's resume is to look them up there.
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| Mon Aug 14, 2017 5:30 am |
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Site Supporter / FFL Dealer  Location: Tacoma, Washington Joined: Fri Nov 21, 2014 Posts: 8614
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I have never landed any job that required a cover letter. I stopped making cover letters years ago. To me, they are a waste of everyone's time.
We primarily take online applications. I don't know of anyone that came in for an application. If you can't fill out an online form, you can't do most of your job. _________________ BLACK HAMMER ARMS Buy A Suppressor http://www.silencershop.com/blackhammerarms Type 7 Class 2 SOT NFA Dealer 1911 Pistolsmithing Firearm Refinishing GLOCK Certified Armorer CMMG Authorized Dealer NEMO Arms Authorized Dealer http://www.blackhammerarms.com http://www.facebook.com/blackhammerarms https://www.instagram.com/blackhammerarms/ |
| Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:37 am |
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Site Supporter / FFL Dealer Location: Tacoma, Washington Joined: Fri Nov 21, 2014 Posts: 8614
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edogg wrote: LinkedIn is also hugely important. The first thing I do after quickly scanning someone's resume is to look them up there. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk _________________ BLACK HAMMER ARMS Buy A Suppressor http://www.silencershop.com/blackhammerarms Type 7 Class 2 SOT NFA Dealer 1911 Pistolsmithing Firearm Refinishing GLOCK Certified Armorer CMMG Authorized Dealer NEMO Arms Authorized Dealer http://www.blackhammerarms.com http://www.facebook.com/blackhammerarms https://www.instagram.com/blackhammerarms/ |
| Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:52 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: South Seattle Joined: Thu Sep 22, 2011 Posts: 13515 Real Name: JP
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Linkedin is a big +1
Fill out a profile, update your info, and search open jobs. We post on Indeed, LinkedIn and even sometimes craigslist _________________ Yes I Do Have A Beautiful Daughter.. I Also Have A Gun, A Shovel, & An Alibi |
| Mon Aug 14, 2017 8:01 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: East of Japan, not by much. Joined: Fri Jun 3, 2011 Posts: 13009
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Traut wrote: Screw resumes, cover letters and applications. Make them come all over you, Rick. FIFY. Let the good times Rick Roll. _________________ Give a man a fish, and he will eat for a day. Give a man a fishing pole, and he will drink too much beer, get tangled in fish line, hook himself in the nose casting, fall overboard, and either drown, or, go home hungry and wet. Give a man a case of dynamite, and he will feed the whole town for a year! BE ON NOTICE: PRIVACY NOTICE: Warning - any person and/or institution and/or Agent and/or Agency of any governmental structure including but not limited to the United States Federal Government also using or monitoring/using this website or any of its associated websites, you do NOT have my permission to utilize any of my profile information nor any of the content contained herein including, but not limited to my photos, and/or the comments made about my photos or any other "picture" art posted on my profile. You are hereby notified that you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing, disseminating, or taking any other action against me with regard to this profile and the contents herein. The foregoing prohibitions also apply to your employee, agent, student or any personnel under your direction or control. The contents of this profile are PRIVATE and legally privileged and confidential information, and the violation of my personal privacy is punishable by law. UCC 1-103 1-308 ALL RIGHTS RESERVED WITHOUT PREJUDICE |
| Mon Aug 14, 2017 8:11 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: Lynnwood/Bothell Joined: Thu Jul 31, 2014 Posts: 8688 Real Name: Curtis
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LinkedIn is just Facebook for "professionals"; you create the version of yourself you want everyone else to see, regardless of how well it matches reality. Very rarely do you get an accurate picture of who someone is from their LinkedIn profile. I've interviewed several candidates I found on LinkedIn...only 1 of them actually sounded like he had the skills & experience listed in his profile; the rest had just pumped themselves full of air online, only to be deflated in the interview process. I don't use it anymore.
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| Mon Aug 14, 2017 8:18 am |
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Site Supporter Location: Central FL Joined: Sun Apr 7, 2013 Posts: 3207
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dreadi wrote: edogg wrote: LinkedIn is also hugely important. The first thing I do after quickly scanning someone's resume is to look them up there. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk If i have a resume from someone equally as qualified and who is on LinkedIn, they'll get the interview (assuming their profile has good stuff ok it). The benefit of LinkedIn is that there are generally recommendations and more info than what's on a resume. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
| Mon Aug 14, 2017 9:52 am |
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Site Supporter Location: Central FL Joined: Sun Apr 7, 2013 Posts: 3207
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Guns4Liberty wrote: LinkedIn is just Facebook for "professionals"; you create the version of yourself you want everyone else to see, regardless of how well it matches reality. Very rarely do you get an accurate picture of who someone is from their LinkedIn profile. I've interviewed several candidates I found on LinkedIn...only 1 of them actually sounded like he had the skills & experience listed in his profile; the rest had just pumped themselves full of air online, only to be deflated in the interview process. I don't use it anymore. Same thing happens with resumes. Not just LinkedIn. That fleshes itself out during the phone screen or interview. I also find it helpful when I'm interviewing. Every time I went on a loop, I looked up the people who were interviewing me. That way I could prepare questions tailored for each person. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
| Mon Aug 14, 2017 9:55 am |
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Site Supporter Location: Lynnwood/Bothell Joined: Thu Jul 31, 2014 Posts: 8688 Real Name: Curtis
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edogg wrote: Guns4Liberty wrote: LinkedIn is just Facebook for "professionals"; you create the version of yourself you want everyone else to see, regardless of how well it matches reality. Very rarely do you get an accurate picture of who someone is from their LinkedIn profile. I've interviewed several candidates I found on LinkedIn...only 1 of them actually sounded like he had the skills & experience listed in his profile; the rest had just pumped themselves full of air online, only to be deflated in the interview process. I don't use it anymore. Same thing happens with resumes. Not just LinkedIn. That fleshes itself out during the phone screen or interview. Yes, but the difference is that a resume doesn't have fake endorsements from 50+ of the applicant's friends. Not only are people artificially inflating their own skills & experience, but they're getting their friends and coworkers to pile onto the facade, and then the favor is returned. Hence why I said it's just Facebook for professionals. |
| Mon Aug 14, 2017 10:04 am |
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 Location: Bothell Joined: Sat Sep 12, 2015 Posts: 5570
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Guns4Liberty wrote: LinkedIn is just Facebook for "professionals"; you create the version of yourself you want everyone else to see, regardless of how well it matches reality. Very rarely do you get an accurate picture of who someone is from their LinkedIn profile. I've interviewed several candidates I found on LinkedIn...only 1 of them actually sounded like he had the skills & experience listed in his profile; the rest had just pumped themselves full of air online, only to be deflated in the interview process. I don't use it anymore. This is so true.... I looked at co-worker profiles to see what they put in there... AMAZING what some people will write - flat out lies... knowing the people and their skill set (or lack thereof) didn't jibe at all with their profile. And the "recommendations" ... what a bunch of bullshit.... buddies pumping up buddies --- it totally worthless... yet hr seems to put alot of weight on that shit. _________________ Plan B is actually repeating Plan A.... it just involves much more alcohol. Of the ten voices I hear in my head, only three keep telling me NOT to shoot.... Do I go with the majority or common sense? Last edited by JohnMBrowning on Mon Aug 14, 2017 10:46 am, edited 1 time in total. |
| Mon Aug 14, 2017 10:44 am |
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Site Supporter Location: South Seattle Joined: Thu Sep 22, 2011 Posts: 13515 Real Name: JP
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JohnMBrowning wrote: Guns4Liberty wrote: LinkedIn is just Facebook for "professionals"; you create the version of yourself you want everyone else to see, regardless of how well it matches reality. Very rarely do you get an accurate picture of who someone is from their LinkedIn profile. I've interviewed several candidates I found on LinkedIn...only 1 of them actually sounded like he had the skills & experience listed in his profile; the rest had just pumped themselves full of air online, only to be deflated in the interview process. I don't use it anymore. This is so true.... I looked at co-worker profiles to see what they put in there... AMAZING what some people will write - flat out lies... knowing the people and their skill set (or lack thereof) didn't jibe at all with their profile. And the "recommendations" ... what a bunch of bullshit.... buddies pumping up buddies --- it totally worthless. You guys act like this is something new. If I had a $1 for every resume I looked at that was "fluffed" more than it should be I would be a rich man. LinkedIn helps solidify what jobs they had, and atleast the date ranges for the most part. _________________ Yes I Do Have A Beautiful Daughter.. I Also Have A Gun, A Shovel, & An Alibi |
| Mon Aug 14, 2017 10:46 am |
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Site Supporter Location: Lynnwood/Bothell Joined: Thu Jul 31, 2014 Posts: 8688 Real Name: Curtis
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L_O_G wrote: You guys act like this is something new. If I had a $1 for every resume I looked at that was "fluffed" more than it should be I would be a rich man. LinkedIn helps solidify what jobs they had, and atleast the date ranges for the most part. The "fluffing" aspect is not new...the friends endorsing the fluffing is new, and is enabled by the Facebook-like construct of the site. For example, one of the candidates I interviewed was for an Import Logistics Coordinator position. The guy had on his profile that he had 3 years of international logistics experience, and was endorsed by several other individuals for skills like "Import" and "International Logistics". I dug into that experience during the interview, and the guy had never heard of incoterms, he struggled to define "drayage", and he had no clue what HS codes are. It was utter bullshit, endorsed by several "professionals". And that is why I don't put any stock in LinkedIn profiles. |
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