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WA gun Ranges under attack, the new angle attacking 2A
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Site Supporter   Location: Tacoma/Puyallup Joined: Tue May 8, 2012 Posts: 4330 Real Name: Larry 
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Just got an email from NRA-ILA outlining new proposed regs that will be damaging to Ranges here in WA.
The website version of the email is here: https://www.nraila.org/articles/2017081 ... ing-ranges I will say as a member of a local sportsman's club I can atest to this being a very real issue. One local range was forced to remove a bench form firing line as well as paint all benches and must clean the benches constantly (I thought I heard daily). _________________ Talons wrote: it's too plastic, even for me. it's like old, overworked, plastic everywhere old pornwhore amounts of plastic. |
| Thu Aug 17, 2017 1:44 pm |
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In Memoriam  Location: Tacoma Wa Joined: Tue Oct 8, 2013 Posts: 16607 Real Name: George Bailey
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Buddy of mine owns a radiator shop......he's so screwed.
_________________ "Remove one freedom per generation and soon you will have no freedom and no one would have noticed."......Carl Marx "Let us Cross the river and sit in the shade of the trees" .....Stonewall Jackson T. Jefferson "....the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. it is it's natural manure" |
| Thu Aug 17, 2017 2:18 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: olympia Joined: Sat Sep 21, 2013 Posts: 3795
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So what if ROs were there on a volunteer basis and are given compensatory funding for their expertise? Does that count as 'work place' as they aren't officially working there?
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| Thu Aug 17, 2017 3:04 pm |
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Site Admin   Location: Olympia, WA Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2011 Posts: 38379 Real Name: Dan
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Wetpaperbag wrote: So what if ROs were there on a volunteer basis and are given compensatory funding for their expertise? Does that count as 'work place' as they aren't officially working there? Yes. ESC (olympia) was targeted after Tacoma Sportsman got railed. All of our RSO's are volunteer, so they are exempt, but there were some small things we needed to do for full compliance. End of the day, we avoided a fine, but paid a small fortune to a legal team... We fared better than some other clubs. ETA to revise my YES statement... Part of that is NO. If an RO accepts any benefit from the club in lieu for RSO duties, then they are considered paid and are not exempt. |
| Thu Aug 17, 2017 3:08 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: Tacoma/Puyallup Joined: Tue May 8, 2012 Posts: 4330 Real Name: Larry
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Massivedesign wrote: Wetpaperbag wrote: So what if ROs were there on a volunteer basis and are given compensatory funding for their expertise? Does that count as 'work place' as they aren't officially working there? Yes. ESC (olympia) was targeted after Tacoma Sportsman got railed. All of our RSO's are volunteer, so they are exempt, but there were some small things we needed to do for full compliance. End of the day, we avoided a fine, but paid a small fortune to a legal team... We fared better than some other clubs. ETA to revise my YES statement... Part of that is NO. If an RO accepts any benefit from the club in lieu for RSO duties, then they are considered paid and are not exempt. Yes TSC is where I am a member and they got nailed pretty hard, They were finally expanding facilities too and got slapped for it. _________________ Talons wrote: it's too plastic, even for me. it's like old, overworked, plastic everywhere old pornwhore amounts of plastic. |
| Thu Aug 17, 2017 3:49 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: Maple valley Joined: Thu Oct 27, 2011 Posts: 3695
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Just glanced through the bill, but it seems that it targets indoor ranges more than outdoor. If ranges get shut down that will lead to more people shooting at unsanctioned places which will lead to more garbage which lead to more "safety zones"
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| Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:31 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: The banana belt of Port Angeles Joined: Thu Feb 25, 2016 Posts: 2315 Real Name: Jay
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Renton Fish & Game Club discovered that if you contact L & I for a voluntary check they will come out, do all the appropriate testing, let you know what needs to be corrected, and won't cite you for issues.
At that point they cannot come back for a "random" evaluation for one year. The trick is, that you call them before that year is up, then the same thing happens. RFGC has been doing that for three years now and the last visit was a couple of hours with no issues to fix. _________________ Jay The Right to Buy Weapons Is the Right to Be Free |
| Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:47 pm |
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In Memoriam Joined: Wed Mar 6, 2013 Posts: 12018
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Isildur wrote: Renton Fish & Game Club discovered that if you contact L & I for a voluntary check they will come out, do all the appropriate testing, let you know what needs to be corrected, and won't cite you for issues. At that point they cannot come back for a "random" evaluation for one year. The trick is, that you call them before that year is up, then the same thing happens. RFGC has been doing that for three years now and the last visit was a couple of hours with no issues to fix.  Spread the word brethren. |
| Thu Aug 17, 2017 6:40 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: Idaho, Land of the Free Joined: Wed May 1, 2013 Posts: 22314 Real Name: Vick Lagina
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Will do.
We lost out kitchen at the upper range house in a proactive move. When I first saw the demolition I said WTF, up? But had to admit that it was trouble waiting to happen. _________________ “I really don't care, Margaret." ~JD Vance |
| Fri Aug 18, 2017 4:19 pm |
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