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Update:
The DA declined to press charges, so apparently pulling a gun on people is now 100% legal.

The officer was given a 5 day suspension without pay. So if you pull a gun on somebody, your boss might be disappointed.

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-ne ... suspended/


So how do you think it should have been resolved?

I'm a big fan of "Do unto others as you'd have them do unto you."

How would it have been resolved, if the roles were reversed? What if it was a random citizen that pulled a gun on a police officer? What would the DA have done?

That's what should have happened in this case.


Citizen's job isn't to approach or arrest people or cite them for a traffic infraction. The stop was within the authority of the detective who stated he witnessed reckless 110mph speeding in the area and followed him.

I reckon if you came up to a cop with a gun drawn, you'd rightly get shot. Because you have no authority to do that.


Except, under the law, citizens are supposed to have greater authority to use their weapons than police are. I can't remember which RCW, but it specifically States that the limitations put forth in the RCW are designed to limit the actions of officers and that civilians have a greater ability to use Force. I believe it was the justifiable homicide RCW.

I'm also questioning what reasonable suspicion he had that the person was either armed and or dangerous.

This whole point guns at innocent people is bullshit.

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https://www.kingcounty.gov/depts/sherif ... efits.aspx

Note, this isn't specifically detective pay but from I recall, that is a serious upgrade.

In my honest, personal opinion, if you are earning these kind of bomb-ass benefits and pay, I expect you to be professional as fuck. Is it to much to ask for?

Your life is in danger, YOU ARE PAID to be involved in that danger.

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Our system is messed up. Period. Cop guy was wrong. Period.

This. And his liberal friends bailed him out.

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cop should be working at walmart. No reason whatsoever to have pulled his gun.Ticket book yes,gun no way


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Its too bad he couldn't have just shot the guys bike full of holes and called it even for being an asshat.

This cop didnt go out and target a law abiding citizen. Do STUPID shit, win stupid awards.

I dunno who was really "righter" but I would rather have a beer with the detective than that punkass hair splitter. His momma should have whooped his ass more when he was little.


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Whoa, I'm not sure whose more badass at this point, the detective or old growth hahahahahaha.

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Its too bad he couldn't have just shot the guys bike full of holes and called it even for being an asshat.

This cop didnt go out and target a law abiding citizen. Do STUPID shit, win stupid awards.

I dunno who was really "righter" but I would rather have a beer with the detective than that punkass hair splitter. His momma should have whooped his ass more when he was little.
If everyone got shot for doing stupid shit then the population of this forum would likely be in single digits. The cop overreacted and was wrong. It's pretty damn simple.

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cop should be working at walmart. No reason whatsoever to have pulled his gun.Ticket book yes,gun no way


Not even Walmart, That was completely out of line.

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Would any of you be proud to have that kid on the bike as your son?


Watch his other videos before responding to my question.

Im no baddass. I am surely not a punk either.


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Motorcyclist probably is a dick,still no reason to have pulled a gun on him. Way to many ways that could have turned bad

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Just so everyone is clear, I am not anti-law enforcement, I hold a degree in Administration of Justice, have spent a lot of time with LEOs and at one time was going to enter into a career as an LEO.

I think the problem with many in law enforcement is the superiority complex where they believe they ARE the law and can do what ever is necessary. This is why law enforcement seems to attract the small man/small dick, egomaniacs who just revel in dominating people

There is also the belief on the part of many in law enforcement that their life is more important than that of their fellow citizen and they will do whatever they need to do to go home at the end of the day.

A quick short story. A friend of mine was getting divorced and had to get an apartment, he works nights, so he signed the lease, moved in his stuff and went to bed within a few hours. This apartment complex was brand new and light construction (mostly paint and finish work) was still going on. Well while my buddy was asleep in his bed one of the construction workers came in (he still had a universal lock on the door), saw my buddy, made the retarded assumption that he was a squatter (a brand new bed, new bed sheets, clothes in boxes....) and called the Kent PD.
The Kent PD in their infinite wisdom didn't bother to check with the leasing office, instead they met with the construction worker, who probably had the IQ of a donut and followed him into the apartment, drew their weapons and ordered my buddy who was still asleep (and naked BTW) in HIS FUCKING BED, IN HIS FUCKING APARTMENT to get up and explain himself.

The story was retold at a party in which a friend of mine (who is a retired LEO) was present and we got into a heated argument because he thought it was fine and proper that LEOs draw their weapons on a unarmed man with ZERO PC that this guy was breaking any laws or was a threat.

It comes down to a belief that an LEO is somehow a better or more valued citizen than John Q Public has got to end. They are public servants that are given a large amount of responsibility (and training, and gear and...) and when they violate the trust or break the law they should receive the same punishment as anyone else.

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leadcounsel wrote:
snozzberries wrote:
leadcounsel wrote:
snozzberries wrote:
Update:
The DA declined to press charges, so apparently pulling a gun on people is now 100% legal.

The officer was given a 5 day suspension without pay. So if you pull a gun on somebody, your boss might be disappointed.

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-ne ... suspended/


So how do you think it should have been resolved?

I'm a big fan of "Do unto others as you'd have them do unto you."

How would it have been resolved, if the roles were reversed? What if it was a random citizen that pulled a gun on a police officer? What would the DA have done?

That's what should have happened in this case.


Citizen's job isn't to approach or arrest people or cite them for a traffic infraction. The stop was within the authority of the detective who stated he witnessed reckless 110mph speeding in the area and followed him.

I reckon if you came up to a cop with a gun drawn, you'd rightly get shot. Because you have no authority to do that.


How the fuck are you sposed to know he was a cop?

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root wrote:
leadcounsel wrote:
snozzberries wrote:
leadcounsel wrote:
snozzberries wrote:
Update:
The DA declined to press charges, so apparently pulling a gun on people is now 100% legal.

The officer was given a 5 day suspension without pay. So if you pull a gun on somebody, your boss might be disappointed.

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-ne ... suspended/


So how do you think it should have been resolved?

I'm a big fan of "Do unto others as you'd have them do unto you."

How would it have been resolved, if the roles were reversed? What if it was a random citizen that pulled a gun on a police officer? What would the DA have done?

That's what should have happened in this case.


Citizen's job isn't to approach or arrest people or cite them for a traffic infraction. The stop was within the authority of the detective who stated he witnessed reckless 110mph speeding in the area and followed him.

I reckon if you came up to a cop with a gun drawn, you'd rightly get shot. Because you have no authority to do that.


How the fuck are you sposed to know he was a cop?


Because only cops run up on unarmed people with their guns drawn?

:peep:

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root wrote:
leadcounsel wrote:
snozzberries wrote:
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So how do you think it should have been resolved?

I'm a big fan of "Do unto others as you'd have them do unto you."

How would it have been resolved, if the roles were reversed? What if it was a random citizen that pulled a gun on a police officer? What would the DA have done?

That's what should have happened in this case.


Citizen's job isn't to approach or arrest people or cite them for a traffic infraction. The stop was within the authority of the detective who stated he witnessed reckless 110mph speeding in the area and followed him.

I reckon if you came up to a cop with a gun drawn, you'd rightly get shot. Because you have no authority to do that.


How the fuck are you sposed to know he was a cop?


Because only cops run up on unarmed people with their guns drawn?

:peep:


You mean gets away with it.

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