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WaJim
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Location: Tacoma Wa Joined: Tue Oct 8, 2013 Posts: 16607
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There seems to be a growing trend across the continent. With the advent of the new found memories that are now stretching back 38years with senator Moore I think its about time for a list of men accused of sex harassment ..... http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-c ... SKBN1D9320Holy Crap, as I write this the news says Louis C K is now being accused.... https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/lo ... 08619eb4f7Yesterday I found out that Dustin Hoffman is accused of being inappropriate with Meryl Strep Of course we have Clarence Thomas, Mr Jello Pudding and Our favorite Mayor Murrey.......... Eghad ,,,,,They're falling like flies.
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dreadi
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Location: Tacoma, Washington Joined: Fri Nov 21, 2014 Posts: 8351
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How many women’s hoods have you looked under? You’re next, buddy.
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NWGunner
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dreadi wrote: How many women’s hoods have you looked under? You’re next, buddy.
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Thu Nov 09, 2017 5:59 pm |
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MadPick
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WaJim wrote: There seems to be a growing trend across the continent. Indeed. And I'm finding it increasingly disturbing. First, let me just say that I'm not okay with rape or unwanted touching, or truly inappropriate behavior. Let all those bastards who've done those things get called out, and face the music. I have no issues with that. However, two aspects of this "trend" are bothering me: 1) Simple allegations seem to be enough to convict people in the public court of opinion. For example, in one of the articles above, it says that Roy Moore was accused today of doing something inappropriate 38 years ago. And today, THE SAME DAY, folks like John McCain are saying that he needs to step aside. WTF? OK, I understand that he'll probably never actually get tried in a real court for this alleged misdeed, but can't we wait for some actual facts?? 2) Things that I consider to be normal courtship rituals or simply tasteless comments have suddenly become crimes or near-crimes. I worry that we're getting so PC that soon you won't be able to flirt . . . I guess we'll all just need to have arranged marriages. For example, I heard a story on NPR the other day. A woman went to a conference, and after one of the speeches she approached the speaker to talk to him. He turned to her and said, "Would you like to come to my hotel room tonight?". She was very upset by this, and some years later she was able to prevent him from getting an executive job at her company (Citibank, I think?). So . . . I get it, the guy was a tasteless douche, but is that really "inappropriate" behavior that merits punishment? I dunno, it just feels like it's being taken too far in some cases.
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Thu Nov 09, 2017 6:29 pm |
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WaJim
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Location: Tacoma Wa Joined: Tue Oct 8, 2013 Posts: 16607
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dreadi wrote: How many women’s hoods have you looked under? You’re next, buddy. Hey!, They were all willing participants...... I think
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Thu Nov 09, 2017 6:45 pm |
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mislabeled
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MadPick wrote: WaJim wrote: There seems to be a growing trend across the continent. Indeed. And I'm finding it increasingly disturbing. First, let me just say that I'm not okay with rape or unwanted touching, or truly inappropriate behavior. Let all those bastards who've done those things get called out, and face the music. I have no issues with that. However, two aspects of this "trend" are bothering me: 1) Simple allegations seem to be enough to convict people in the public court of opinion. For example, in one of the articles above, it says that Roy Moore was accused today of doing something inappropriate 38 years ago. And today, THE SAME DAY, folks like John McCain are saying that he needs to step aside. WTF? OK, I understand that he'll probably never actually get tried in a real court for this alleged misdeed, but can't we wait for some actual facts?? 2) Things that I consider to be normal courtship rituals or simply tasteless comments have suddenly become crimes or near-crimes. I worry that we're getting so PC that soon you won't be able to flirt . . . I guess we'll all just need to have arranged marriages. For example, I heard a story on NPR the other day. A woman went to a conference, and after one of the speeches she approached the speaker to talk to him. He turned to her and said, "Would you like to come to my hotel room tonight?". She was very upset by this, and some years later she was able to prevent him from getting an executive job at her company (Citibank, I think?). So . . . I get it, the guy was a tasteless douche, but is that really "inappropriate" behavior that merits punishment? I dunno, it just feels like it's being taken too far in some cases. I agree with this wholeheartedly. The term "harassment" has become too broad. I saw one story where people were talking about how cat calls were harassment. Yes, if a fellow employee is hooting at you or loudly complimenting your knockers (this never happens to me, by the way ) then that almost certainly qualifies as harassment and it needs to be stopped. But if you're walking down the street and some stranger whistles at you, that is NOT harassment. Crass? Possibly. Bad manners? Also maybe yes. A dating strategy with a poor success rate? Geez, I hope so. But harassment? Absurd. Honestly, I would put that under the banner of protected free speech. The target is clear (hot babe) and the message is also pretty plain ("you're a hot babe"). Assuming there's no touching or other sort of physical interference involved, then none of that is harassment. Now, if a guy follows you for 4 blocks whooping it up and making you wonder if he's going to suddenly reach out and grab you, that might be crossing the line. To be clear, I'm not giving the true pervs out there a pass. If you pin someone against the wall of an elevator and jizz into the potted plant next to them, you had damn well better know they're on board with that behavior. Hint: almost no one is on board with that behavior. If you've made someone legitimately concerned for their safety or the safety of their loved ones, or you've made them feel their livelihood is at risk if they don't go along with whatever plan you've concocted, then you deserve a throat punching that doesn't quit. I also agree that allegations aren't evidence. Lots of allegations aren't evidence. Until some actual evidence comes to light, then innocent 'til proven guilty, right? Of course, we live in a state that's happy to strip you of your 2A rights on allegations alone, so what the fuck do I know.
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RocketScott
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WaJim wrote: dreadi wrote: How many women’s hoods have you looked under? You’re next, buddy. Hey!, They were all willing participants...... I think As long as you’re not grabbing the junk in the trunk I think you’re ok. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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AR15L
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How's that old saying go? 'The more she drinks, the better I look'.
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Pablo
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Thing is with Ed Murray, he doesn't look like a gay ass pervert at all. Not a bit. Not even a little.
No, the first time I saw the guy his whole persona screamed "love some butt sex with minor males" - but I guess we aren't supposed to notice this or discuss "patterns" in 2017. Anything that adults do behind closed doors and all.
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dreadi
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Pablo wrote: Thing is with Ed Murray, he doesn't look like a gay ass pervert at all. Not a bit. Not even a little.
No, the first time I saw the guy his whole persona screamed "love some butt sex with minor males" - but I guess we aren't supposed to notice this or discuss "patterns" in 2017. Anything that adults do behind closed doors and all. Hey now....not everyone is OK entry through the poop-shoot. Even if they only have 2:3 orifices when compared to the other sex.
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WaJim
In Memoriam
Location: Tacoma Wa Joined: Tue Oct 8, 2013 Posts: 16607
Real Name: George Bailey
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dreadi wrote: Pablo wrote: Thing is with Ed Murray, he doesn't look like a gay ass pervert at all. Not a bit. Not even a little.
No, the first time I saw the guy his whole persona screamed "love some butt sex with minor males" - but I guess we aren't supposed to notice this or discuss "patterns" in 2017. Anything that adults do behind closed doors and all. Hey now....not everyone is OK entry through the poop-shoot. Even if they only have 2:3 orifices when compared to the other sex. Uhh, My GF's daughter is a Med. Doctor. She says she sees/fixes guys that get things stuck up orifice #3. To be fair I Havent heard a story about a match box car, light bulb or rodent shoved up one....yet.
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"Let us Cross the river and sit in the shade of the trees" .....Stonewall Jackson
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AR15L
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Location: Nampa, Idaho Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 Posts: 19461
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WaJim wrote: dreadi wrote: Pablo wrote: Thing is with Ed Murray, he doesn't look like a gay ass pervert at all. Not a bit. Not even a little.
No, the first time I saw the guy his whole persona screamed "love some butt sex with minor males" - but I guess we aren't supposed to notice this or discuss "patterns" in 2017. Anything that adults do behind closed doors and all. Hey now....not everyone is OK entry through the poop-shoot. Even if they only have 2:3 orifices when compared to the other sex. Uhh, My GF's daughter is a Med. Doctor. She says she sees/fixes guys that get things stuck up orifice #3. To be fair I Havent heard a story about a match box car, light bulb or rodent shoved up one....yet. No pictures? Fail.
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Fri Nov 10, 2017 7:13 am |
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WaJim
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Location: Tacoma Wa Joined: Tue Oct 8, 2013 Posts: 16607
Real Name: George Bailey
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Heard on the radio this morning that the Music industry has the same problem.... Cant remember the rock singers name that said it but here's a article by of all people Tom Jones. http://people.com/music/tom-jones-sexua ... -industry/I find this part of the interview disturbing.... Quote: He added: “There’s always been that element there that people with power sometimes abuse it, but they don’t all abuse it, there are good people. … Justice will out. If you’ve done something wrong, you’ve got to pay for it, or prove that you haven’t done anything wrong.” Really ? What happened to innocent until proven guilty?
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"Let us Cross the river and sit in the shade of the trees" .....Stonewall Jackson
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Alpine
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Social media is the new incarnation of a wild mob. Things are going to get worse.
Rape should be punished, but waiting decades and making accusations that are impossible to prove is a double edged sword.
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Fri Nov 10, 2017 8:03 am |
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WaJim
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Location: Tacoma Wa Joined: Tue Oct 8, 2013 Posts: 16607
Real Name: George Bailey
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Actually, its a single edge sword.
The alleged victim is praised for coming out and the accused is ruined....there's no possible way the accused can prove his innocence.
Like Louis C K ....His new movie was cancelled....immediately. He looses tons of money and his name is besmirched.
How the hell is he supposed to prove it didn't happen.
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"Let us Cross the river and sit in the shade of the trees" .....Stonewall Jackson
T. Jefferson "....the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. it is it's natural manure"
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