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Seattle residents complain about Confederate flag flying....
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Site Supporter   Location: The banana belt of MT Joined: Wed Dec 30, 2015 Posts: 8584 Real Name: Brian 
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mislabeled wrote: Musta been too busy eating Tide Pods and tweeting hashtags to pay attention on the day they taught countries' flags in school. Thank goodness they were outraged, though. Can never have too much outrage.  _________________ "I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me."- Hunter S. Thompson |
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Site Supporter  Location: Everson, WA Joined: Sun Jan 6, 2013 Posts: 28177 Real Name: Ace Winky
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sportsdad60 wrote: mislabeled wrote: Musta been too busy eating Tide Pods and tweeting hashtags to pay attention on the day they taught countries' flags in school. Thank goodness they were outraged, though. Can never have too much outrage. X1000000000000000000 _________________ Why does the Penguin in Batman sound like a duck? Because the eagle sounds like a hawk. |
| Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:03 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: Piece/Clallam Joined: Wed Oct 17, 2012 Posts: 10688
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Theres the one at Sumner RV flying strong
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| Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:14 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: N Spokane Joined: Fri Feb 23, 2018 Posts: 29 Real Name: Edward
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OMG - well, what can you say....
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| Fri Feb 23, 2018 11:51 am |
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Site Supporter Location: In my Cave near the Cloquallum Joined: Thu Sep 26, 2013 Posts: 7788 Real Name: Jim Sr.
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So what is wrong with flying a Confederate flag?
_________________ "You are either with us...as Americans. Or, You are against us. There is no IN BETWEEN." ??? "We cannot negotiate with those who say, 'What's mine is mine, and what's yours is negotiable.'" JFK "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety” -Ben Franklin MadPick wrote: I don't think you beat your children enough. |
| Fri Feb 23, 2018 12:00 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: N-Sno Joined: Thu Oct 3, 2013 Posts: 4015
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Caveman Jim wrote: So what is wrong with flying a Confederate flag? Best quote ever. Thank you. _________________ "Hmmm. I've been looking for a way to serve the community that incorporates my violence." -- Leela |
| Fri Feb 23, 2018 12:03 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: In my Cave near the Cloquallum Joined: Thu Sep 26, 2013 Posts: 7788 Real Name: Jim Sr.
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mislabeled wrote: Caveman Jim wrote: So what is wrong with flying a Confederate flag? Best quote ever. Thank you. I was raised in the South and very proud of my heratige, some think it means something else but they are so uninformed. _________________ "You are either with us...as Americans. Or, You are against us. There is no IN BETWEEN." ??? "We cannot negotiate with those who say, 'What's mine is mine, and what's yours is negotiable.'" JFK "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety” -Ben Franklin MadPick wrote: I don't think you beat your children enough. |
| Fri Feb 23, 2018 12:07 pm |
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Site Supporter / FFL Dealer  Location: Tacoma, Washington Joined: Fri Nov 21, 2014 Posts: 8351
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mislabeled wrote: Caveman Jim wrote: So what is wrong with flying a Confederate flag? Best quote ever. Thank you. Where I'm from if you're scene flying that flag some people believe that you are a bigot. Often it was very easy to tell without the flag. Also, for many people that flag represents a group of people that supported, fought for, were willing to, and did die for their beliefs. Part of their core beliefs is that oppression, segregation, and slavery is just fine. _________________ BLACK HAMMER ARMS Buy A Suppressor http://www.silencershop.com/blackhammerarms Type 7 Class 2 SOT NFA Dealer 1911 Pistolsmithing Firearm Refinishing GLOCK Certified Armorer CMMG Authorized Dealer NEMO Arms Authorized Dealer http://www.blackhammerarms.com http://www.facebook.com/blackhammerarms https://www.instagram.com/blackhammerarms/ |
| Fri Feb 23, 2018 12:13 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: N-Sno Joined: Thu Oct 3, 2013 Posts: 4015
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dreadi wrote: Where I'm from if you're scene flying that flag some people believe that you are a bigot. Often it was very easy to tell without the flag. Also, for many people that flag represents a group of people that supported, fought for, were willing to, and did die for their beliefs. Part of their core beliefs is that oppression, segregation, and slavery is just fine. Your experience is very different from mine. Where I'm from, most people fly that flag because they prefer more conservative values (primarily: live and let live) than the increasingly liberal BS the WA administration is stuffing down our throats. The majority of them have never been to the South, some haven't even been outside this state. They and their families had nothing to do with the oppression, segregation, or slavery that was part of the US's history. I know that because their families weren't even in this country when the Confederate flag as we know it now was adopted. I'm not discounting the power of any flag's symbolism. However, if someone chooses to believe something about me because of a flag in my yard, that's kind of their problem, isn't it? _________________ "Hmmm. I've been looking for a way to serve the community that incorporates my violence." -- Leela |
| Fri Feb 23, 2018 12:37 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: In my Cave near the Cloquallum Joined: Thu Sep 26, 2013 Posts: 7788 Real Name: Jim Sr.
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dreadi wrote: mislabeled wrote: Caveman Jim wrote: So what is wrong with flying a Confederate flag? Best quote ever. Thank you. Where I'm from if you're scene flying that flag some people believe that you are a bigot. Often it was very easy to tell without the flag. Also, for many people that flag represents a group of people that supported, fought for, were willing to, and did die for their beliefs. Part of their core beliefs is that oppression, segregation, and slavery is just fine. I could care less what they think, just like the stars & stripes, let anyone try and burn it. No offense, people fail to see things the same as others in different geographic s who have lived it. _________________ "You are either with us...as Americans. Or, You are against us. There is no IN BETWEEN." ??? "We cannot negotiate with those who say, 'What's mine is mine, and what's yours is negotiable.'" JFK "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety” -Ben Franklin MadPick wrote: I don't think you beat your children enough. |
| Fri Feb 23, 2018 12:40 pm |
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Site Supporter / FFL Dealer Location: Tacoma, Washington Joined: Fri Nov 21, 2014 Posts: 8351
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mislabeled wrote: dreadi wrote: Where I'm from if you're scene flying that flag some people believe that you are a bigot. Often it was very easy to tell without the flag. Also, for many people that flag represents a group of people that supported, fought for, were willing to, and did die for their beliefs. Part of their core beliefs is that oppression, segregation, and slavery is just fine. Your experience is very different from mine. Where I'm from, most people fly that flag because they prefer more conservative values (primarily: live and let live) than the increasingly liberal BS the WA administration is stuffing down our throats. The majority of them have never been to the South, some haven't even been outside this state. They and their families had nothing to do with the oppression, segregation, or slavery that was part of the US's history. I know that because their families weren't even in this country when the Confederate flag as we know it now was adopted. I'm not discounting the power of any flag's symbolism. However, if someone chooses to believe something about me because of a flag in my yard, that's kind of their problem, isn't it? To that I would say, my suggestion is that those people find a different flag to fly instead of flying a flag while being ignorant of or disregarding it's origin. Casting a different idea to what the flag represents doesn't change what it largely represents. It surely does not represent "live and let live". Caveman Jim wrote: dreadi wrote: mislabeled wrote: Caveman Jim wrote: So what is wrong with flying a Confederate flag? Best quote ever. Thank you. Where I'm from if you're scene flying that flag some people believe that you are a bigot. Often it was very easy to tell without the flag. Also, for many people that flag represents a group of people that supported, fought for, were willing to, and did die for their beliefs. Part of their core beliefs is that oppression, segregation, and slavery is just fine. I could care less what they think, just like the stars & stripes, let anyone try and burn it. No offense, people fail to see things the same as others in different geographic s who have lived it. That's fine. What does it mean for you? Have you been able to trace your heritage to the Confederacy? I'm not offended and I agree with you. It's hard for people to understand a symbol or anything else that's culturally relevant when they have not lived with it. What geographic are you referring to? As for me, I lived with it for 30 years in the south. _________________ BLACK HAMMER ARMS Buy A Suppressor http://www.silencershop.com/blackhammerarms Type 7 Class 2 SOT NFA Dealer 1911 Pistolsmithing Firearm Refinishing GLOCK Certified Armorer CMMG Authorized Dealer NEMO Arms Authorized Dealer http://www.blackhammerarms.com http://www.facebook.com/blackhammerarms https://www.instagram.com/blackhammerarms/ |
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Site Supporter  Location: East of Japan, not by much. Joined: Fri Jun 3, 2011 Posts: 12990
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I got no problems with incendiary flag reactions - I get mild irritation though.
If I fly the Canadian flag, everybody thinks I am a maple syrup retailer, or a Red Robins donut shop. They do get all pissed off when they find out I am neither. " Get off my lawn. " _________________ Give a man a fish, and he will eat for a day. Give a man a fishing pole, and he will drink too much beer, get tangled in fish line, hook himself in the nose casting, fall overboard, and either drown, or, go home hungry and wet. Give a man a case of dynamite, and he will feed the whole town for a year! BE ON NOTICE: PRIVACY NOTICE: Warning - any person and/or institution and/or Agent and/or Agency of any governmental structure including but not limited to the United States Federal Government also using or monitoring/using this website or any of its associated websites, you do NOT have my permission to utilize any of my profile information nor any of the content contained herein including, but not limited to my photos, and/or the comments made about my photos or any other "picture" art posted on my profile. You are hereby notified that you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing, disseminating, or taking any other action against me with regard to this profile and the contents herein. The foregoing prohibitions also apply to your employee, agent, student or any personnel under your direction or control. The contents of this profile are PRIVATE and legally privileged and confidential information, and the violation of my personal privacy is punishable by law. UCC 1-103 1-308 ALL RIGHTS RESERVED WITHOUT PREJUDICE |
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Site Supporter Location: N-Sno Joined: Thu Oct 3, 2013 Posts: 4015
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dreadi wrote: To that I would say, my suggestion is that those people find a different flag to fly instead of flying a flag while being ignorant of or disregarding it's origin. Casting a different idea to what the flag represents doesn't change what it largely represents. It surely does not represent "live and let live". The swastika didn't begin life as a Nazi construct, yet that's all it's affiliated with nowadays. Everyone has disregarded its origin. The contemporary symbolism of the Confederate flag may be evolving, too, especially among those who weren't exposed to its earlier incarnations. Hell, this society can't even seem to agree on what the US flag means anymore. _________________ "Hmmm. I've been looking for a way to serve the community that incorporates my violence." -- Leela |
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Site Supporter  Location: Kentucky Joined: Fri Jan 16, 2015 Posts: 11087
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They must be really pissed that Lenin has restaurants all over the place...
 Oh, wait, they're socialists. _________________ You may be right, I may be crazy, but it just may be a lunatic you're looking for |
| Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:45 pm |
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Site Supporter / FFL Dealer Location: Tacoma, Washington Joined: Fri Nov 21, 2014 Posts: 8351
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mislabeled wrote: dreadi wrote: To that I would say, my suggestion is that those people find a different flag to fly instead of flying a flag while being ignorant of or disregarding it's origin. Casting a different idea to what the flag represents doesn't change what it largely represents. It surely does not represent "live and let live". The swastika didn't begin life as a Nazi construct, yet that's all it's affiliated with nowadays. Everyone has disregarded its origin. The contemporary symbolism of the Confederate flag may be evolving, too, especially among those who weren't exposed to its earlier incarnations. Hell, this society can't even seem to agree on what the US flag means anymore. I agree with some of that. I know one restaurant in New Orleans http://www.ernstcafe.net/our-story that has swastica tiles on the floor of restaurant. The difference with that an other uses is that the flag of Nazi Gernamy adapted the symbol to their use. In my opinion, it's not the same. Although today, it's different enough that I believe it would be judged as a trademark infringement if it's design and use was the subject of a law suit. Back to the "confederate flag". Sadly, many people don't know which flag they are flying. It's worth the conversation to ask "Which flag are you flying?" _________________ BLACK HAMMER ARMS Buy A Suppressor http://www.silencershop.com/blackhammerarms Type 7 Class 2 SOT NFA Dealer 1911 Pistolsmithing Firearm Refinishing GLOCK Certified Armorer CMMG Authorized Dealer NEMO Arms Authorized Dealer http://www.blackhammerarms.com http://www.facebook.com/blackhammerarms https://www.instagram.com/blackhammerarms/ |
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