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If there was ever a real reason for an initiative, this is it.


You got that right, it used to be that they worked for us..... Now they are circumventing the legal system and going rouge. I have never trusted any GOV agency or politicians, they are the devil.

"Just as important as transparency is the ability of lawmakers to effectively work on behalf of those who sent us here," meaning that their constituents (who didn't vote for them) don't mean suit to them!!!

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Now they are circumventing the legal system and going rouge.


Anything but plaid..

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I just received a reply from one of my Reps about this from my opposition email.... after it passed!!!
What a crock o SHIT!!!

February 23, 2018

Bringing more transparency to state government

Washington state has made great strides over the years to improve public transparency of the legislative process.

TVW covers legislative activity in Olympia.

The Public Disclosure Commission (PDC) keeps a close eye on political campaign financing.

And members of the public are free to observe official committee meetings and floor debates in-person.

Over the last few years, we have heard the concerns of reporters, editorial boards, and open government advocates that the legislature is not transparent enough. These concerns have led to a court case, and in order to avoid further costly litigation, lawmakers have approved a bipartisan measure to address many of the concerns regarding a need for additional transparency from the legislature.

The measure we approved this week (SB 6617) is the largest expansion of legislative records being opened to the public in over two decades. Once the bill goes into effect on July 1, 2018, more legislative records will be subject to public disclosure, including:

Legislators’ calendars, including the names and dates of individuals and organizations with whom they’ve met;
Legislators’ correspondence on legislative business to and from lobbyists and other people who are paid to influence legislation;
Final dispositions of investigations and disciplinary proceedings by administrative committees that oversee the House and Senate; and
Any other records lawmakers choose to disclose.
Lawmakers are striving to be more transparent, but there are still aspects of our work that must remain private, which we have protected in this legislation:

Constituent privacy: Our first job is to work on behalf of our constituents. If they do not have confidence that their private correspondence will remain private, we cannot do our jobs.
Protect the legislative process: The open flow of ideas and advice is crucial to the legislative environment. Legislators shouldn’t have to worry about asking dumb questions, or having bad ideas, if these never see the light of day. Likewise, staff should feel free sharing advice.
Political fishing expeditions: The legislature is a political place by nature. There is a real concern about using disclosure laws as weapons, either legislatively or in an election.

This is a first step, and I believe it strikes a fair balance between protecting constituent privacy and striving for a more open government. While I don’t support the quick manner in which this bill was passed, I do support making our legislature more transparent. The bill is far from perfect, but it’s an excellent step in the right direction. I am open to continue looking at how we can ensure the legislature operates in a way that is more transparent.

Rep. Steve Tharinger

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What or where does the work 'transparency' come into play?

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trans·par·en·cy
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the condition of being transparent.
"the transparency of ice"
synonyms: translucency, limpidity, clearness, clarity More
2.
an image, text, or positive transparent photograph printed on transparent plastic or glass, able to be viewed using a projector.


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Jay inslee vetoed the bill

http://komonews.com/news/local/gov-insl ... egislature


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About time he did something right.


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About time he did something right.


Agree!

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Now lets see if they override his veto.

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Without penetration data, the pics aren't of much use.

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"Half the harm that is done in this world is due to people who want to feel important. They don't mean to do harm -- but the harm does not interest them. Or they do not see it, or they justify it because they are absorbed in the endless struggle to think well of themselves." – T.S. Eliot

"The right of self defence is the first law of nature: in most governments it has been the study of rulers to confine this right within the narrowest limits possible. Wherever standing armies are kept up, and the right of the people to keep and bear arms is, under any colour or pretext whatsoever, prohibited, liberty, if not already annihilated, is on the brink of destruction." - St. George Tucker

A careful definition of words would destroy half the agenda of the political left and scrutinizing evidence would destroy the other half. - Thomas Sowell

"To ban guns because criminals use them is to tell the innocent and law-abiding that their rights and liberties depend not on their own conduct, but on the conduct of the guilty and the lawless, and that the law will permit them to have only such rights and liberties as the lawless will allow...

For society does not control crime, ever, by forcing the law-abiding to accommodate themselves to the expected behavior of criminals. Society controls crime by forcing the criminals to accommodate themselves to the expected behavior of the law-abiding." - Jeff Snyder

Personal weapons are what raised mankind out of the mud, and the rifle is the queen of personal weapons. The possession of a good rifle, as well as the skill to use it well, truly makes a man the monarch of all he surveys. It realizes the ancient dream of the Jovian thunderbolt, and as such it is the embodiment of personal power. For this reason it exercises a curious influence over the minds of most men, and in its best examples it constitutes an object of affection unmatched by any other inanimate object.

Jeff Cooper
1997 The Art of the Rifle Page 1.

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SUGGEST CASE BE SUBMITTED ON APPELLANT'S BRIEF. UNABLE TO OBTAIN ANY MONEY FROM CLIENTS TO BE PRESENT & ARGUE BRIEF.

The defense attorney's telegram to the clerk of the Supreme Court, March 29, 1939, in re United States. v. Miller.

You don't need to go to Law School to understand the constitutional implications of that.

“You can’t cut the throat of every cocksucker whose character it would improve.”
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I don't want to be told that I can't remove the tree by some tree-hugging pole smoker from the eat-a-dick foundation/Olympia/King County.


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They won't. The caucuses from both sides asked sleepy Jay to veto. Turns out clown didn't really venture much.

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