No doubt.

Betting there are cameras all over that thing for just such an event. It will be interesting to see how it plays out.


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I'm with MadPick. If I could hand over my driving duties to a computer who was demonstrably as safe (or better) I'd kick back and let HAL drive from there on out.

There are caveats... There are trade-offs. If any of the trade-offs became too steep, I'd reconsider quick.

Driving is a big part of my freedom, to my country way of thinking.

Turns out this lady was homeless and had been arrested 6 times in the last year on drug or alcohol related charges. This is according to the Dori monson show. I have no other source at the moments. Kinda adds to the statement she just stepped out in front of it.

I'm sure there are details that will come out after all the agenda-driven media have had their feed. Pro & anti, etc.

I don't care about how many prior arrests she had, or what for, but, her tox screen after this accident may matter.

It would also be interesting to know if it was an electric car or not.....maybe she didn't hear it coming....

I get that she was outside the crosswalk, but, was it 1/2 a foot, and she just cut it a bit, or was it 15'?

Also, how far was the car from her when she first stepped out.......immediate, or did it have any time to break, and did it attempt to?

Well,

Michelle Millman this morning said the car had a human back up driver inside and the woman killed was pushing a bicycle.

I was thinking about this last night and what bothers me about driverless cars is that when stuff like this happens, there is no real closure for the victims family.

What's likely to happen is the company's lawyers are going to figure out how much "quiet money" to fork over and some suit who has literally nothing to do with the issue is going to give a statement about how driverless cars really save lives and this is an unfortunate teething problem on the way to safe driving nirvana and they are just going to make some tweaks to the algorithm.

The family isn't going to get to look anyone who is actually responsible in the eye and get a real, meaningful "i'm sorry". Their loved one is basically reduced to a line item on the corporate p and l statement while the guys in engineering will impassionately discuss getting from three nines safety rating to four nines. All sense of loss and humanity gets removed from the situation.

You want closure?

Don't walk in the fucking road, whilst not paying attention.

There's your closure.

Sometimes that's exactly what people need to hear.

Instead some suit for Uber is going to give some non-committal post-modernistic relativistic statement (with a check attached) like "Uber deeply regrets unfortunate incidents involving our technology. Uber prides itself on a relentless commitment to safety and will continue to produce the safest driverless driving experience in the world."

Thereby reinforcing the climate of dehumanization and lack of responsibility that has produced the snoflake generation.

I’ll also say that I don’t think the crosswalk issue is relevant. The car needs to be smart enough to avoid hitting people (and other things) regardless of whether they’re in a crosswalk or not.

And I bet you think trains should stop and not kill people when they walk or drive in front of them.

you cant teach smart but you are always born with stupid

That's a gigantic goalposts move. Try again.

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I believe there's a point in technology that needs to stop, or at least what is used by or around the average human.
Technology is great, we've got these fancy phones, GPS, free porn and vehicles these days that can compute hundreds of inputs in milliseconds, but what is mankind loosing in the process?
There's absolutely zero way to figure out if the woman would have been hit by a human driver, yet testing with an autonomously driven car can not, will not, at least with current technology, be able to make decisions based upon thought, conscience and emotions.
There's a point where all this technology dumbs down the average human, does anyone think this is good? Seriously, just look at those around you stuck into a phone, can't change a tire, driving off a dock because the gps said to turn left or a twenty something devastated because real life doesn't mimic what they see on TV and online......
As an old mechanic that started on points and magneto ignition systems and has had first hand knowledge of all the technology that goes into a vehicle these days, all I see is a healthy dose of money to buy, maintain and repair, and that car doesn't get you there any faster, or safer, then a car built even 20 years ago. Yet we all buy the latest and greatest, then bitch and moan when a $6k repair bill comes along to fix the exhaust system.
Hell, people have forgotten how to be self sufficient, aware, responsible, adaptable and have lost common sense. All in the name of having something that does the work for you.
Technology is cool, but there has to be a point where it's use by, or around, the average person is limited.
Technology have given us great things, and stupid people.

Very well stated.

Not without warning.

Idiots walk /run out from behind cars all the time. Can't see them until they're in the road, too late.

I totally agree. But that’s also true for a pedestrian who suddenly bolts out into a crosswalk.

Bottom line, it’s about the behavior of the pedestrian plus the reaction time of the driver/car ... not about whether it happens in a crosswalk or not.