Re: Woman struck and killed by self-driving Uber vehicle
Tue Mar 20, 2018 6:07 pm
I can't wait to see what happens when these self driving cars encounter heavy rain, icy snow covered roads or even a big pot hole or uneven road construction.... "Lock up the brakes' is not the solution to everything. Do you aim for the guard rail, mini van with kids in it or the smart car with two snowflakes in it? I wonder what Apu's decision tree will be.... I'm sure they have addressed some of this, but no way am I gonna trust my life to a programmer...
Planes can fly themselves - right? Why do they fly into mountains or over/undershoot runways?
Re: Woman struck and killed by self-driving Uber vehicle
Wed Mar 21, 2018 9:55 am
MadPick wrote:
PinSniper wrote:Get these beta testing death machines off the road until they are provably ready.
But how do you do that?
At some point, testing needs to be done in the real world. The same thing happens with software, drugs, airplanes, etc.
I'm not convinced they've actually done ANY testing. Let's see the videos where they've simulated on a closed course the car navigating around bicyclists? I'm going to guess they haven't tested that. That the first time this car encountered a bicyclist, was on the road.
Re: Woman struck and killed by self-driving Uber vehicle
Wed Mar 21, 2018 9:07 pm
Yep, there was no way in hell a normal driver would have avoided that. I doubt a human would have even been able to hit the brakes before hitting her, given reaction time.
No lights on the bike, no reflectors, dark clothing, no street lights. She dead yo.
Re: Woman struck and killed by self-driving Uber vehicle
Wed Mar 21, 2018 9:13 pm
Thanks, Jon.
Hmmm. Yeah, the pedestrian is clearly a dumbass . . . but still, I would think that a self-driving car needs to be able to react in that situation. I was under the impression that she had jumped off the sidewalk, but since she was right there in the road, I think the car should be smart enough to deal with that.
The "driver" was clearly multitasking, he wasn't much help.
Re: Woman struck and killed by self-driving Uber vehicle
Thu Mar 22, 2018 10:39 pm
The video is far worse than your eyes would be in the same situation. Look at the video, it's basically undrivable, but of course, that's not what it actually looks like to human eyes.
Check this video out, if you assume that human eyes are only as good as what the camera captures, the only way this crash was avoided, was using telepathy.
Also on Monday, the auto-parts maker that supplied the radar and camera on the Volvo SUV that struck and killed the woman last week said Uber had disabled the standard collision-avoidance technology in the vehicle.
"We don't want people to be confused or think it was a failure of the technology that we supply for Volvo, because that's not the case," Zach Peterson, a spokesman for Aptiv, said by phone. The Volvo XC90's standard advanced driver-assistance system "has nothing to do" with the Uber test vehicle's autonomous driving system, he said.
Aptiv is speaking up for its technology to avoid being tainted by the fatality involving Uber, which may have been following standard practice by disabling other tech as it develops and tests its own autonomous driving system. Experts who saw video of the Uber crash pointed to apparent failures in Uber's sensor system, which failed to stop or slow the car as 49-year-old Elaine Herzberg crossed a street pushing a bicycle.