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 CA Database aids in Gun Seizures From Prohibited Owners 
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The perils of a database of registered guns and owners...

While I'm not against prohibited people from having guns, I'm sure as hell not for a database of ownership.

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As you've seen in WA they simply keep expanding the parameters of what makes a prohibited person or what is a prohibited firearm that must be surrendered. The database aids the enforcement of that.

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We've been told there is no gun registration in Washington......
Bullshit!


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As you've seen in WA they simply keep expanding the parameters of what makes a prohibited person or what is a prohibited firearm that must be surrendered. The database aids the enforcement of that.

:yes:

And this is why the only "prohibited person" classification I can get behind is someone who is currently serving time behind bars for a criminal conviction. That is the only time I believe it is valid to deprive someone of their natural right to keep and bear arms. All other prohibitions are arbitrary and can become a slippery slope.


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They actually think prohibited persons are the ones who register their guns? Lol.


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Guns4Liberty wrote:
Alpine wrote:
As you've seen in WA they simply keep expanding the parameters of what makes a prohibited person or what is a prohibited firearm that must be surrendered. The database aids the enforcement of that.

:yes:

And this is why the only "prohibited person" classification I can get behind is someone who is currently serving time behind bars for a criminal conviction. That is the only time I believe it is valid to deprive someone of their natural right to keep and bear arms. All other prohibitions are arbitrary and can become a slippery slope.


I agree 100%, if they are safe enough to be out in society, they should be safe enough to carry a gun. If they are not safe enough to own a gun then revise the system so that only those safe to own guns get out.

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TINCANBANDIT wrote:
Guns4Liberty wrote:
Alpine wrote:
As you've seen in WA they simply keep expanding the parameters of what makes a prohibited person or what is a prohibited firearm that must be surrendered. The database aids the enforcement of that.

:yes:

And this is why the only "prohibited person" classification I can get behind is someone who is currently serving time behind bars for a criminal conviction. That is the only time I believe it is valid to deprive someone of their natural right to keep and bear arms. All other prohibitions are arbitrary and can become a slippery slope.


I agree 100%, if they are safe enough to be out in society, they should be safe enough to carry a gun. If they are not safe enough to own a gun then revise the system so that only those safe to own guns get out.



In the interests of liberty I heartily agree. I especially appreciate your caveat/distinction TCB.

However, knowing/seeing/interacting with what has managed to crawl out of the gene pool and function (if at times barely) in society, I think the FFL/NICS process is a (barely) acceptable means of filtering. It is an imperfect system to be sure. It is an unfortunate byproduct of the fact that while someone may be a "productive" member of society, they cannot comprehend the serious nature of firearms. Our risk adverse medically advanced society allows those that might not survive naturally, to be a part of and at times thrive in modern society. Because of this, I grudgingly see some MINOR restrictions as necessary.

Having said all that, I am vehemently opposed to many of our current laws. Again, I believe in truly minor restrictions. Capacity tests, psych evals, the NFA, ERPOs, 594, AWB, and mag limits are not IMO minor. They should be completely abolished at the federal level.

I'm also opposed to CPL requirements in their current state. I would like to see constitutional carry enshrined at the federal level, but require CPLs for carry in certain places like courts, airports, and other restricted access locations.

My two cents, for what they are worth on a free internet forum :D


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