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  Location: Bothell Joined: Sat Sep 12, 2015 Posts: 4879 
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I don't have any illusions that data and images are not being collected.... but what confounds me is how/where are they storing all this data? All this info and images need to be stored somewhere --- and just imagine the enormity of data collected from every camera, reader, cell phone,...ect.... I can't imagine that there is enough server space available to store it ALL, and if so, not for eternity.... Terabyte drives fill up pretty quick with a lot of worthless data.... and to be truly useful, an easy means of searching it is need -- I'm sure they have that figured out by now.... And the question becomes how long do they store what data?
_________________ Plan B is actually repeating Plan A.... it just involves much more alcohol. Of the ten voices I hear in my head, only three keep telling me NOT to shoot.... Do I go with the majority or common sense? |
| Sun Apr 22, 2018 8:24 am |
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Site Supporter   Location: central wa Joined: Mon Mar 21, 2011 Posts: 3555
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JohnMBrowning wrote: I don't have any illusions that data and images are not being collected.... but what confounds me is how/where are they storing all this data? All this info and images need to be stored somewhere --- and just imagine the enormity of data collected from every camera, reader, cell phone,...ect.... I can't imagine that there is enough server space available to store it ALL, and if so, not for eternity.... Terabyte drives fill up pretty quick with a lot of worthless data.... and to be truly useful, an easy means of searching it is need -- I'm sure they have that figured out by now.... And the question becomes how long do they store what data? The cloud is the where, which is, of course, suuuper secure. |
| Sun Apr 22, 2018 8:41 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: Lynnwood and at large Joined: Wed May 1, 2013 Posts: 21286 Real Name: Vick Lagina
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There are EUGE server farms in the midwest and west coast. They make big news when their generators fire up and foul the air for miles around with diesel smoke or when their power consumption threatens power grid integrity or dries up water supplies (I think both from power generation and cooling needs; I'm going on memory of information scanned and not committed to memory)
Ireland, as I recall, is another place that benefits greatly from the revenues and jobs these generate. here's a google on data centers: https://www.google.com/about/datacenters/gallery/#/ they tout windfarm power generation/use. (another ecological nightmare couched as being "green". _________________ “Finding ‘common ground’ with the thinking of evil men is a fool’s errand” ~ Herschel Smith "The “A return to First Principles in a Republic is sometimes caused by simple virtues of a single man. His good example has such an influence that the good men strive to imitate him, and the wicked are ashamed to lead a life so contrary to his example. Before all else, be armed!” ~ Niccolo Machiavelli Láodòng zhèng zhūwèi zìyóu FJB |
| Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:10 am |
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Site Supporter Location: Lynnwood and at large Joined: Wed May 1, 2013 Posts: 21286 Real Name: Vick Lagina
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Quincy WA has had problems with their server farm's impact:
https://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/24/tech ... power.html _________________ “Finding ‘common ground’ with the thinking of evil men is a fool’s errand” ~ Herschel Smith "The “A return to First Principles in a Republic is sometimes caused by simple virtues of a single man. His good example has such an influence that the good men strive to imitate him, and the wicked are ashamed to lead a life so contrary to his example. Before all else, be armed!” ~ Niccolo Machiavelli Láodòng zhèng zhūwèi zìyóu FJB |
| Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:13 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: Nova Laboratories Joined: Tue Oct 25, 2011 Posts: 18469 Real Name: Johnny 5
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JohnMBrowning wrote: I don't have any illusions that data and images are not being collected.... but what confounds me is how/where are they storing all this data? All this info and images need to be stored somewhere --- and just imagine the enormity of data collected from every camera, reader, cell phone,...ect.... I can't imagine that there is enough server space available to store it ALL, and if so, not for eternity.... Terabyte drives fill up pretty quick with a lot of worthless data.... and to be truly useful, an easy means of searching it is need -- I'm sure they have that figured out by now.... And the question becomes how long do they store what data? https://nsa.gov1.info/utah-data-center/ It has a pretty glaring weakness though.. It requires a shit ton of water for cooling. Sure, there are backup and emergency cooling systems, but they actually had to run a huge water pipeline to the facility. Talking millions of gallons a month.. So, it wouldn't take that much to take it offline.. I'm sure there are redundancies built-in. But nothing a small six-man team can't take care of. _________________ NO DISASSEMBLE! Thomas Paine wrote: "He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself." |
| Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:30 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: WA/MT Joined: Thu Sep 6, 2012 Posts: 8285
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In the interest of national security.....
_________________ Rara Temporum Felicitas Ubi Sentire Quae Velis Et Quod Velis Dicere Licet. ― Tacitus "Well, nobody's perfect." ― Osgood Fielding III |
| Sun Apr 22, 2018 2:29 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: Nova Laboratories Joined: Tue Oct 25, 2011 Posts: 18469 Real Name: Johnny 5
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Well, the water also has to go somewhere.
That would mean that if we could fire a missile in the thermal exhaust port.... we might have a fighting chance against the evil empire. Meanwhile, the Stormtroopers will be mobilized, trying to hunt down the rebel scum. _________________ NO DISASSEMBLE! Thomas Paine wrote: "He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself." |
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