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Seattle 'looks into' SUPPLYING HEROIN for drug users
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Site Supporter   Location: Tacoma Joined: Sat May 4, 2013 Posts: 6476 
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| Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:19 pm |
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glockgirl wrote: Sorry to burst your righteous rage bubble, but no, Health Canada is not supplying heroin or fentanyl to users. Safe injection sites do provide privacy, and do provide nurses to monitor users, but they must bring their own drugs in. Health Canada does provide clean needles and syringes, as well as stocking naloxone (Narcan) and in some provinces, offering methadone as a substitute for the illegal drugs. Having seen three bodies being removed in the U District since moving to the UW Tower (formerly Safeco Tower) in November, I'm kind of in support of safe injection sites. Seriously, I called SPD when a guy--at 1630, in broad daylight--was sitting on 45th near my bus stop openly shooting up. The dispatcher asked if he was causing a disturbance, and when I said "Not yet", I was told that it wasn't a priority to respond to individuals shooting up. Um, okay, cool. Thanks. Honest question, do you think it's important to repeal state and federal laws that make doing, possessing and dealing these narcotics a crime before we start using taxpayer dollars to help people use them? Is it ok to not only ignore state and federal laws but also use public money to help break them? _________________ If you vote for Biden you are voting to be murdered when he sends Beto to come take your "semi automatic assault weapon" (any semi auto). If you have family or friends voting for Biden show them this and ask if they are willing to vote for your murder or maybe even their own if they are gun owners or live with any. https://nypost.com/2020/03/03/joe-biden ... n-control/ Quote: “I want to make something clear, I’m going to guarantee you this is not the last you’ve seen of him (Beto),” Biden said Monday evening during a campaign rally in Dallas. “You’re (Beto) going to take care of the gun problem with me. You’re (Beto) going to be the one who leads this effort.” https://www.newsweek.com/beto-orourke-g ... ns-1465738 Quote: [Beto O'Rourke Suggests Police Would 'Visit' Homes To Implement Proposed Assault Weapons Ban] "In that case, I think that there would be a visit by law enforcement to recover that firearm... ..."If someone does not turn in an AR-15 or an AK-47, one of these weapons of war...then that weapon will be taken from them" |
| Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:29 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: Nova Laboratories Joined: Tue Oct 25, 2011 Posts: 19173 Real Name: Johnny 5
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glockgirl wrote: Sorry to burst your righteous rage bubble, but no, Health Canada is not supplying heroin or fentanyl to users. Safe injection sites do provide privacy, and do provide nurses to monitor users, but they must bring their own drugs in. Health Canada does provide clean needles and syringes, as well as stocking naloxone (Narcan) and in some provinces, offering methadone as a substitute for the illegal drugs. Having seen three bodies being removed in the U District since moving to the UW Tower (formerly Safeco Tower) in November, I'm kind of in support of safe injection sites. Seriously, I called SPD when a guy--at 1630, in broad daylight--was sitting on 45th near my bus stop openly shooting up. The dispatcher asked if he was causing a disturbance, and when I said "Not yet", I was told that it wasn't a priority to respond to individuals shooting up. Um, okay, cool. Thanks. So, if you don't see the problem, let it exist somewhere else? It's only going to get worse... _________________ NO DISASSEMBLE! Thomas Paine wrote: "He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself." |
| Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:30 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: Nampa, Idaho Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 Posts: 20125 Real Name: Rick
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Alpine wrote: glockgirl wrote: Sorry to burst your righteous rage bubble, but no, Health Canada is not supplying heroin or fentanyl to users. Safe injection sites do provide privacy, and do provide nurses to monitor users, but they must bring their own drugs in. Health Canada does provide clean needles and syringes, as well as stocking naloxone (Narcan) and in some provinces, offering methadone as a substitute for the illegal drugs. Having seen three bodies being removed in the U District since moving to the UW Tower (formerly Safeco Tower) in November, I'm kind of in support of safe injection sites. Seriously, I called SPD when a guy--at 1630, in broad daylight--was sitting on 45th near my bus stop openly shooting up. The dispatcher asked if he was causing a disturbance, and when I said "Not yet", I was told that it wasn't a priority to respond to individuals shooting up. Um, okay, cool. Thanks. Honest question, do you think it's important to repeal state and federal laws that make doing, possessing and dealing these narcotics a crime before we start using taxpayer dollars to help people use them? Is it ok to not only ignore state and federal laws but also use public money to help break them? What they think and what we think are two different things. Obviously, they don't give a fuck. |
| Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:32 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: Marysville, WA Joined: Fri Jul 22, 2011 Posts: 11570 Real Name: Mike
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WaJim wrote: Yeah, and Seattles MOBILE Injection RV is like 3/4 million buck rig. You could pick up a USED 40 footer with 20k miles on it for 30 grand. But nothing but the best and finest when the junkies gotta party.. Nobody in Seattle City Government is smart enough to realize they could convert an old transit bus for the cost of some seat back tray/tables. Leave it parked in SoDo for a week or so and it would have a custom paint job that would be perfect. As for giving the "Junkies" free heroin, I'm kind of in favor of that approach. Would cut down on the number of panhandlers that are trying to get enough $$ for their next fix. Fewer car prowls, shoplifting, burglaries, and all the other things people do when they're too hooked to hold down a job. Let Darwinism take it's course (as it pretty much is already) and give these individuals all they want. BTW, if the shit's free, what will the street dealers do to make a living? Just curious. Way back in our history when Opium was legal, I wonder how many deaths per capita occured from it's use? Ditto for Cocaine. _________________ "I've learned from the Dog that an afternoon nap is a good thing" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "For he to-day that sheds his blood with me Shall be my brother" - William Shakespeare |
| Sun Jun 17, 2018 1:40 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: Nova Laboratories Joined: Tue Oct 25, 2011 Posts: 19173 Real Name: Johnny 5
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deadshot2 wrote: WaJim wrote: Yeah, and Seattles MOBILE Injection RV is like 3/4 million buck rig. You could pick up a USED 40 footer with 20k miles on it for 30 grand. But nothing but the best and finest when the junkies gotta party.. Nobody in Seattle City Government is smart enough to realize they could convert an old transit bus for the cost of some seat back tray/tables. Leave it parked in SoDo for a week or so and it would have a custom paint job that would be perfect. As for giving the "Junkies" free heroin, I'm kind of in favor of that approach. Would cut down on the number of panhandlers that are trying to get enough $$ for their next fix. Fewer car prowls, shoplifting, burglaries, and all the other things people do when they're too hooked to hold down a job. Let Darwinism take it's course (as it pretty much is already) and give these individuals all they want. BTW, if the shit's free, what will the street dealers do to make a living? Just curious. Way back in our history when Opium was legal, I wonder how many deaths per capita occured from it's use? Ditto for Cocaine. Again, you're just hiding the problem. Who gets sued when someone ODs or they get a bad batch? Where does the City of Seattle buy Heroin?! _________________ NO DISASSEMBLE! Thomas Paine wrote: "He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself." |
| Sun Jun 17, 2018 1:44 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: Auburn, WA Joined: Tue Oct 18, 2011 Posts: 2200
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snozzberries wrote: Shit I hope they do this. Then get the feds to roll in and arrest the entire city council and mayor. Throw them all in jail for possession and distribution. ^ This but, don't forget the governor and senators too! This is one of only 2 ways to stop this bullshit and turn this State back onto the road to Freedom. I forgot the other way......  |
| Sun Jun 17, 2018 2:00 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: Nova Laboratories Joined: Tue Oct 25, 2011 Posts: 19173 Real Name: Johnny 5
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Fuck it. Citizen's arrest.
Felony? Check! Disturbance of the peace? Check! _________________ NO DISASSEMBLE! Thomas Paine wrote: "He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself." |
| Sun Jun 17, 2018 2:54 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: Marysville, WA Joined: Fri Jul 22, 2011 Posts: 11570 Real Name: Mike
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TechnoWeenie wrote: Again, you're just hiding the problem. Who gets sued when someone ODs or they get a bad batch? Where does the City of Seattle buy Heroin?! Nobody's hiding the problem. It's right there in front of us all with nobody doing an f-ing thing about it. Don't worry about anyone getting sued, in order to get the "free smack" a waiver will have to be signed indemnifying the City from any and all liability. Just like the one you sign when you go to a private gun range to shoot. Buy Heroin? I'll bet that more than enough Heroin is in evidence lockers already with more being seized daily from dealers and "importers". Plenty to just give away with no acquisition cost. As a taxpayer I'm a little tired of seeing my tax dollars going to all the publicly funded "Programs" that in the end just create jobs for people with sociology degrees. Not only is money being spent there to little or no avail but look at the money being flushed down the law enforcement toilet. As for Seattle City Government? Wait and watch what happens in November when all the city council is up for re-election (or so I've heard). Pundits are suggesting that a lot of faces will be changing, possibly including the "Baghwan Shree Sawant". Might be that even those who've been eating up what she's been dishing out are realizing that unknown after-taste is actually shit. _________________ "I've learned from the Dog that an afternoon nap is a good thing" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "For he to-day that sheds his blood with me Shall be my brother" - William Shakespeare |
| Sun Jun 17, 2018 3:22 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: Nampa, Idaho Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 Posts: 20125 Real Name: Rick
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deadshot2 wrote: As for Seattle City Government? Wait and watch what happens in November when all the city council is up for re-election (or so I've heard). Pundits are suggesting that a lot of faces will be changing, possibly including the "Baghwan Shree Sawant". Might be that even those who've been eating up what she's been dishing out are realizing that unknown after-taste is actually shit. Gotta wait until 2019.  |
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Site Supporter  Location: WA/MT Joined: Thu Sep 6, 2012 Posts: 8438
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In Memoriam  Location: Tacoma Wa Joined: Tue Oct 8, 2013 Posts: 16607 Real Name: George Bailey
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glockgirl wrote: Sorry to burst your righteous rage bubble, but no, Health Canada is not supplying heroin or fentanyl to users. I know your "righteous rage bubble" was directed my direction but I was quoting the Wa. Post. If you read the quoted article in my previous post its in the text. https://www.washingtonpost.com/national ... ad40ab20fc Quote: Canada’s plans do not stop at supervised injection. Some sites now test users’ drugs for fentanyl, and some are aiming to provide prescription opioids from vending machines. Russell Cooper injects himself with diacetyl morphine, a heroin substitute, at the Providence Crosstown Clinic. (JOHN LEHMANN/For The Washington Post) The most far-reaching intervention is just two blocks from the pop-up site, where the Providence Crosstown Clinic PROVIDES 130 of the city’s hardest-core drug users with pharmaceutical-grade heroin and other narcotics. Users come to inject themselves as often as three times a day, and some also swallow a morphine tablet to carry them through the night. Bottom line in Canada they're providing Pharma-grade heroin..... _________________ "Remove one freedom per generation and soon you will have no freedom and no one would have noticed."......Carl Marx "Let us Cross the river and sit in the shade of the trees" .....Stonewall Jackson T. Jefferson "....the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. it is it's natural manure" |
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Site Supporter  Location: Bellevue Joined: Tue Aug 6, 2013 Posts: 4895 Real Name: Jennifer
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Alpine wrote: glockgirl wrote: Sorry to burst your righteous rage bubble, but no, Health Canada is not supplying heroin or fentanyl to users. Safe injection sites do provide privacy, and do provide nurses to monitor users, but they must bring their own drugs in. Health Canada does provide clean needles and syringes, as well as stocking naloxone (Narcan) and in some provinces, offering methadone as a substitute for the illegal drugs. Having seen three bodies being removed in the U District since moving to the UW Tower (formerly Safeco Tower) in November, I'm kind of in support of safe injection sites. Seriously, I called SPD when a guy--at 1630, in broad daylight--was sitting on 45th near my bus stop openly shooting up. The dispatcher asked if he was causing a disturbance, and when I said "Not yet", I was told that it wasn't a priority to respond to individuals shooting up. Um, okay, cool. Thanks. Honest question, do you think it's important to repeal state and federal laws that make doing, possessing and dealing these narcotics a crime before we start using taxpayer dollars to help people use them? Is it ok to not only ignore state and federal laws but also use public money to help break them? Do you not understand that addiction is an illness, not a choice? I see no sin in providing clean, safe, supervised areas for those who are sick to address their illness and to be provided with assistance in achieving remission, which is a cornerstone of the Health Canada effort. Please see Galatians 6:2 and Romans 15:1 for further consideration of your thoughts. The latter is right in my sig line, which is probably good, because I rather doubt that you own a Bible with a broken spine. _________________ "The Constitution shall never be construed to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms." ~ Samuel Adams "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." ~Tenzin Gyatso, aka His Holiness the Dalai Lama "We who are strong have an obligation to bear with the failings of the weak, and not to please ourselves." ~ Romans 15:1 "Ils Ont Les Armes, On Les Emmerde, On A Le Champagne!"~Charlie Hebdo, November 2015 |
| Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:56 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: Nampa, Idaho Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 Posts: 20125 Real Name: Rick
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glockgirl wrote: Do you not understand that addiction is an illness, not a choice? I see no sin in providing clean, safe, supervised areas for those who are sick to address their illness and to be provided with assistance in achieving remission, which is a cornerstone of the Health Canada effort. Quote: I see no sin in providing clean, safe, supervised areas |
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Site Supporter Location: Nova Laboratories Joined: Tue Oct 25, 2011 Posts: 19173 Real Name: Johnny 5
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glockgirl wrote: Do you not understand that addiction is an illness, not a choice? Yup... Those poor innocent people, developing heroin addictions through no fault of their own... We need to find out the bacteria or pathogen causing this disease.... If it's a virus, maybe we can make a vaccine! Ohh.. wait.. You mean people put needles in their arm by CHOICE? Fuck this 'oohhh.. it's a disease' bullshit... No one forced you to shoot up.... You wanna talk about women that are kidnapped, put into sex trade, and strung out to keep under control? Then we might have a conversation.. But some POS that got high, then KEPT getting high to the point that it's destroying his life? He CHOSE that route, and will CONTINUE to choose that route. Recently, PCSO cleaned up a huge homeless camp near 512 and 112th... They offered them guaranteed JOBS, and SUBSTANCE ABUSE solutions to get them off whatever drugs they were on.. Wanna guess how many 'just needed a chance' assholes took the job offer??
Wanna guess how many of those 'I just need help with my disease' assholes took the substance abuse help?
Fuck them. Let them OD. _________________ NO DISASSEMBLE! Thomas Paine wrote: "He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself." |
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