Supremes: States can enforce sales tax on online purchases

[Guntrader]

Will be a nightmare for small businesses. Having to look up all those tax codes and rates......geez.
If they don't collect it, they could end up paying it plus interest and penalties.

https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireS ... e-56057252


Consumers can expect to see sales tax being charged on more online purchases — likely over the next year and potentially before the Christmas shopping season — as states and retailers react to the court's decision, said one attorney involved in the case.

The Supreme Court's 5-4 decision Thursday overruled two, decades-old Supreme Court decisions that states said cost them billions of dollars in lost revenue annually. The decisions made it more difficult for states to collect sales tax on certain online purchases, and more than 40 states had asked the high court to overrule them.

The cases the court overturned said that if a business was shipping a customer's purchase to a state where the business didn't have a physical presence such as a warehouse or office, the business didn't have to collect the state's sales tax. Customers were generally responsible for paying the sales tax to the state themselves if they weren't charged it, but most didn't realize they owed it and few paid.

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[Guns4Liberty]

Wait, you mean the government ruled that the government can collect more tax revenue from us? No way!

[TINCANBANDIT]

OK so let's say I sell something on ebay to someone in New York, how is New York going to collect taxes from me? Take me to court in New York??

[reginald_burrito]

OK so let's say I sell something on ebay to someone in New York, how is New York going to collect taxes from me? Take me to court in New York??

Sure, why not.

[Guntrader]

I have a Dell reseller partner account, don't pay tax on that.
With Amazon, I have to itemize what I buy for resale and they give me a refund on the tax, but it's a PITA.
But not looking forward to sending out resale certificates to every mom and pop Ebay or one time seller and trying to get my tax back.
Sometimes I just eat the tax, and charge the customer a little more so I don't have to fuck around with it.

[Guntrader]

NY would probably file paperwork and WA DOR would collect from you on their behalf.
I'll bet it is a complex and expensive process, and of course whoever owed the tax money is gonna pay for it all.
Interest, penalties, court costs, etc.

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[AR15L]

https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/supreme-court-rules-states-online-sales-tax-case-56057252

What a CF!

I think that was written by many liberal lawyers that were hitting the pipe beforehand.

[TINCANBANDIT]

say goodbye to ebay, say goodby to gunbroker, say goodby to Amazon

This decision is beyond fucked up, I guess I will be closing my ebay account, I will be sure to explain to ebay why I will no longer be a seller or a buyer for that matter.

This country is gone....it is time for a reset

[WaJim]

Didn't cost anything to pass the law...so any and all tax collected from here on out even if its just partial is a Gvt Bonus.

No skin of their but when they dump the responsibility on the businesses.

[Pablo]

We can do it, but companies like Avalara are going to make a killing (on us). Yep AVLR was UP nicely today.

We pay them a fee for all the different sales tax rates in WA alone, collect and pass on to the states......now the rest of the states. Fack - wow. Small business gets screwed tax. How long before Alaska, Delaware, Montana, New Hampshire, and Oregon get a sales tax?. Of these, Alaska and Montana allow localities to charge sales taxes - which make 47 states with some form of local tax.

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[leadcounsel]

I think this might actually HELP small businesses. The internet is what put small businesses under. Maybe this helps them and folks will shop locally instead.

As far as taxes, it's a patchwork now. It's not the end of the world. It really is just closing a several decade old loophole that allowed massive companies like Amazon to get filthy rich and kill small businesses.

As far as computer algorithms, I'm confident shipping codes and zip codes will sort out and add the tax on the transaction.

I see the tax issue as far more consistent and logical. Why does a business next door have to collect state tax, but one from across a state line not have to? Makes no sense, and it harms my local economy b/c it encourages internet purchases.

I don't have much heartburn over this.

[AR15L]

Why does a business next door have to collect state tax, but one from across a state line not have to? Makes no sense, and it harms my local economy b/c it encourages internet crossing the border into Oregon for purchases.

(fixd it for you)
Explain Oregon.

[TINCANBANDIT]

I think this might actually HELP small businesses. The internet is what put small businesses under. Maybe this helps them and folks will shop locally instead.

As far as taxes, it's a patchwork now. It's not the end of the world. It really is just closing a several decade old loophole that allowed massive companies like Amazon to get filthy rich and kill small businesses.

As far as computer algorithms, I'm confident shipping codes and zip codes will sort out and add the tax on the transaction.

I see the tax issue as far more consistent and logical. Why does a business next door have to collect state tax, but one from across a state line not have to? Makes no sense, and it harms my local economy b/c it encourages internet purchases.

I don't have much heartburn over this.

I have to disagree....there are thousands of businesses that are strictly online and many retailers who have both brick and mortar and an online presence......this will kill most online business

[Pablo]

I think this might actually HELP small businesses. The internet is what put small businesses under. Maybe this helps them and folks will shop locally instead.

As far as taxes, it's a patchwork now. It's not the end of the world. It really is just closing a several decade old loophole that allowed massive companies like Amazon to get filthy rich and kill small businesses.

As far as computer algorithms, I'm confident shipping codes and zip codes will sort out and add the tax on the transaction.

I see the tax issue as far more consistent and logical. Why does a business next door have to collect state tax, but one from across a state line not have to? Makes no sense, and it harms my local economy b/c it encourages internet purchases.

I don't have much heartburn over this.

Did you even read my post? How many states does your business ship to? Thought so. Yes the hearty will survive, but those algorithms can and will work, just like they do in WA state, but it's not cheap......but you air brushed over the nasty part. NOW we will have to submit returns and write checks to 47 states..............nasty dude. Think.

[leadcounsel]

Folks have raised some good points against this. These hard cases with a divided 5-4 Court are always ugly.

I can definitely see that some folks will suffer. Others will profit. It's a very hard issue it appears. No easy answers when there are surely winners and losers on these types of economic issues.