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Re: Balloon Goin Up? Press Secretary Denied Service

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 3:03 pm
by Selador
the925life wrote:Speaking in generalities - isn't it the consensus on this forum, and conservatives as a whole, that private business should be able to refuse service to anyone. Let the market sort it out.

We said that about LPG.

We said that about the cake maker.

Now the shoe is on the other foot and most of this thread is up in arms because it happened to someone in the Trump camp.

What gives?
(rhetorical question)

What TW said.

It's not so much "getting upset because now it has happened to the Trump camp".

If... You get so upset about a cake not being decorated a certain way, that you sue the baker to the point of losing everything he has...

Then you turn around and cover yourself with the flag of refusing service to anyone you please because it's your business, when in turn it is you who have "refused service' to someone.

It's the very height of hypocrisy.

It's the hypocrisy that moves me to demand that they be sued to the point of losing everything they have. Not "whose camp", the turd was dropped on the door step of...

It's the blaring, flaming, putrid circus of hypocrisy.

Re: Balloon Goin Up? Press Secretary Denied Service

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 3:51 pm
by Pablo
Selador wrote:
It's the blaring, flaming, putrid circus of hypocrisy.


Thank you.

Re: Balloon Goin Up? Press Secretary Denied Service

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:05 pm
by bigzdawg
the925life wrote:Speaking in generalities - isn't it the consensus on this forum, and conservatives as a whole, that private business should be able to refuse service to anyone. Let the market sort it out.

We said that about LPG.

We said that about the cake maker.

Now the shoe is on the other foot and most of this thread is up in arms because it happened to someone in the Trump camp.

What gives?
(rhetorical question)



You must not be aware of the details of this incident.

Saunders made reservations under her name. They were accepted.
Saunders party arrived on time, identified themselves, and were seated.
They were given menus and time to order.
Then, the owner woman came up and told them they would not be served, and to leave.

Saunders did so quietly and without incident.

Then, Saunders and her husband went home, the rest of the party (5 or 6) went across the street to another restaurant to have dinner.

The Red Hen owner got in her car, went into the other restaurant, and demanded to the owner to kick them out.

This entire incident was designed to maximize embarrassment for the Saunders party.

So, NO, it was much more than just "choice". It was a planned incident.

Re: Balloon Goin Up? Press Secretary Denied Service

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:13 pm
by Pablo
bigzdawg wrote:
the925life wrote:Speaking in generalities - isn't it the consensus on this forum, and conservatives as a whole, that private business should be able to refuse service to anyone. Let the market sort it out.

We said that about LPG.

We said that about the cake maker.

Now the shoe is on the other foot and most of this thread is up in arms because it happened to someone in the Trump camp.

What gives?
(rhetorical question)



You must not be aware of the details of this incident.

Saunders made reservations under her name. They were accepted.
Saunders party arrived on time, identified themselves, and were seated.
They were given menus and time to order.
Then, the owner woman came up and told them they would not be served, and to leave.

Saunders did so quietly and without incident.

Then, Saunders and her husband went home, the rest of the party (5 or 6) went across the street to another restaurant to have dinner.

The Red Hen owner got in her car, went into the other restaurant, and demanded to the owner to kick them out.

This entire incident was designed to maximize embarrassment for the Saunders party.

So, NO, it was much more than just "choice". It was a planned incident.


I actually did not know those details. WOW.

Re: Balloon Goin Up? Press Secretary Denied Service

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:18 pm
by jukk0u
I hadn't heard about following the party to the restaurant next door!
Harassment? Stalking?

Re: Balloon Goin Up? Press Secretary Denied Service

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:34 pm
by L_O_G
Is anyone really suprised by this though? This type of hypocrisy and harrassment seems to be the norm these days for most of that political party.

Flip the script around and if this was done to someone employed by Obama during his first term, the world would have self destructed.

Re: Balloon Goin Up? Press Secretary Denied Service

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:42 pm
by Pablo
L_O_G wrote:Is anyone really suprised by this though? This type of hypocrisy and harrassment seems to be the norm these days for most of that political party.

Flip the script around and if this was done to someone employed by Obama during his first term, the world would have self destructed.


Yep. ESPECIALLY a person in a protected class.

Re: Balloon Goin Up? Press Secretary Denied Service

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:42 pm
by BadKarma
The difference in the cake maker situation was they were asked to participate in a ceremony they disagreeded with. They sold flowers to gay people all the time.

Re: Balloon Goin Up? Press Secretary Denied Service

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:48 pm
by AR15L
Let's push this just a little tiny bit...
Those two black guys that were bum rushed out of Starfux SUED and WON $1.00
They didn't want the money, they wanted to be treated equally.
Imagine that?

Re: Balloon Goin Up? Press Secretary Denied Service

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 7:59 pm
by TechnoWeenie

Re: Balloon Goin Up? Press Secretary Denied Service

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 1:53 am
by Pablo
bigzdawg wrote:
the925life wrote:Speaking in generalities - isn't it the consensus on this forum, and conservatives as a whole, that private business should be able to refuse service to anyone. Let the market sort it out.

We said that about LPG.

We said that about the cake maker.

Now the shoe is on the other foot and most of this thread is up in arms because it happened to someone in the Trump camp.

What gives?
(rhetorical question)



You must not be aware of the details of this incident.

Saunders made reservations under her name. They were accepted.
Saunders party arrived on time, identified themselves, and were seated.
They were given menus and time to order.
Then, the owner woman came up and told them they would not be served, and to leave.

Saunders did so quietly and without incident.

Then, Saunders and her husband went home, the rest of the party (5 or 6) went across the street to another restaurant to have dinner.

The Red Hen owner got in her car, went into the other restaurant, and demanded to the owner to kick them out.

This entire incident was designed to maximize embarrassment for the Saunders party.

So, NO, it was much more than just "choice". It was a planned incident.


I only could find a different version. Do you have a hard link for this?

Re: Balloon Goin Up? Press Secretary Denied Service

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 7:45 am
by Selador
bigzdawg wrote:
the925life wrote:Speaking in generalities - isn't it the consensus on this forum, and conservatives as a whole, that private business should be able to refuse service to anyone. Let the market sort it out.

We said that about LPG.

We said that about the cake maker.

Now the shoe is on the other foot and most of this thread is up in arms because it happened to someone in the Trump camp.

What gives?
(rhetorical question)



You must not be aware of the details of this incident.

Saunders made reservations under her name. They were accepted.
Saunders party arrived on time, identified themselves, and were seated.
They were given menus and time to order.
Then, the owner woman came up and told them they would not be served, and to leave.

Saunders did so quietly and without incident.

Then, Saunders and her husband went home, the rest of the party (5 or 6) went across the street to another restaurant to have dinner.

The Red Hen owner got in her car, went into the other restaurant, and demanded to the owner to kick them out.

This entire incident was designed to maximize embarrassment for the Saunders party.

So, NO, it was much more than just "choice". It was a planned incident.

The owner got in her car and drove across the street, to continue hassling them?

Re: Balloon Goin Up? Press Secretary Denied Service

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 7:53 am
by jukk0u
Well, since conservatives are now the ostracized class... can we at least get our own water fountains?

swing lo' sweet chariot
comin' for to carry me home...

vending your wares to a customer and catering/altering your product to support or promote their political, religious or ideological causes seem to me to be different issues.

What a complex world this is.

EDIT:
Also there's this DC law on the books (I realize the Red Hen is in Vagina) so some progressives may have put their feet in their mouths (have put their foot in their mouths?) in supporting this woman.

"Here’s the text of the act: “It is the intent of the Council of the District of Columbia, in enacting this chapter, to secure an end in the District of Columbia to discrimination for any reason other than that of individual merit, including, but not limited to, discrimination by reason of race, color, religion, national origin, sex, age, marital status, personal appearance, sexual orientation, gender identity or expression, familial status, family responsibilities, matriculation, political affiliation, genetic information, disability, source of income, status as a victim of an intrafamily offense, and place of residence or business.”"

https://www.westernjournal.com/ct/lefti ... 2018-06-27

Re: Balloon Goin Up? Press Secretary Denied Service

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 5:21 am
by waglocker
http://komonews.com/news/nation-world/w ... he-red-hen

Chicken poop, an arrest, and a MAGA flag show up as the Red Hen remains closed. Maybe the owner, her husband, and their non-cis-gendered son can go out and get new Pink Pussy Hats to wear in protest of the Putin Puppet in the White House.

Re: Balloon Goin Up? Press Secretary Denied Service

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 6:25 am
by TINCANBANDIT
waglocker wrote:http://komonews.com/news/nation-world/west-virginia-man-charged-after-police-said-he-threw-feces-at-the-red-hen

Chicken poop, an arrest, and a MAGA flag show up as the Red Hen remains closed. Maybe the owner, her husband, and their non-cis-gendered son can go out and get new Pink Pussy Hats to wear in protest of the Putin Puppet in the White House.



he should have disguised himself as a homeless man and took a crap on their front step