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Take that, Bobby! USSC upholds travel ban
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movingviolation
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https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-06-26/supreme-court-upholds-trump-travel-banQuote: As was widely expected, the Supreme Court has handed the Trump administration its first major court victory over its travel ban after three successive versions of the ban were challenged by lower courts. In a 5-4 vote, the conservatives on the court backed the Trump administration, rejecting the notion that the ban discriminated against Muslims and refusing to question the administration's national security claims. The Supreme Court also rejected the San Francisco appeals' court's finding that Trump had exceeded his authority over immigration.
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| Tue Jun 26, 2018 7:46 am |
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Alpine
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Can't believe it was 5-4. Should have been 9-0. The Constitution and statute in question both make it clear.
What part of "of all aliens or any class of aliens" and "plenary power" do those 4 idiots not understand?
Just think, 5-4 should scare all of you. That's how close we were to Hillary destroying us 10000 different ways.
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| Tue Jun 26, 2018 7:50 am |
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leadcounsel
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A win for COMMON SENSE and RULE OF LAW. Gorsuch is proving his merit on the SCOTUS.
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| Tue Jun 26, 2018 8:56 am |
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Caveman Jim
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Alpine wrote: Can't believe it was 5-4. Should have been 9-0. The Constitution and statute in question both make it clear.
What part of "of all aliens or any class of aliens" and "plenary power" do those 4 idiots not understand?
Just think, 5-4 should scare all of you. That's how close we were to Hillary destroying us 10000 different ways. Agreed, scary as hell and definitely not the way the founding fathers of America had planned the judicial system to work. Torches and pitchforks folks is what's next.
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| Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:12 am |
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Guns4Liberty
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Yeah, this should have been 9-0. It was an open-and-shut case to anyone who can read the applicable statutes. The fact that there were 4 votes is very scary. This is why the SCOTUS appointments matter more than anything else when it comes to electing a POTUS; the Constitution is often 1 vote away from being dismantled piece by piece.
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| Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:17 am |
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Nate
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Guns4Liberty wrote: Yeah, this should have been 9-0. It was an open-and-shut case to anyone who can read the applicable statutes. The fact that there were 4 votes is very scary. This is why the SCOTUS appointments matter more than anything else when it comes to electing a POTUS; the Constitution is often 1 vote away from being dismantled piece by piece. One of my colleagues is VERY anti Trump. So much so, he'll nearly froth at the mouth when spewing how Trump should just die. He asked me who I voted for. Ha ha ha....I said Trump. I thought he was gonna spaz on the spot. He said "Why the f would you do that?" Me says: Supreme Court. Hopefully, he can appoint a couple more before he's through. I thought his head would literally explode.
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| Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:22 am |
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Guns4Liberty
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Nate wrote: Guns4Liberty wrote: Yeah, this should have been 9-0. It was an open-and-shut case to anyone who can read the applicable statutes. The fact that there were 4 votes is very scary. This is why the SCOTUS appointments matter more than anything else when it comes to electing a POTUS; the Constitution is often 1 vote away from being dismantled piece by piece. One of my colleagues is VERY anti Trump. So much so, he'll nearly froth at the mouth when spewing how Trump should just die. He asked me who I voted for. Ha ha ha....I said Trump. I thought he was gonna spaz on the spot. He said "Why the f would you do that?" Me says: Supreme Court. Hopefully, he can appoint a couple more before he's through. I thought his head would literally explode. I didn't vote for Trump because, historically, he has never been a conservative, so I had no reason to believe he would govern conservatively or appoint conservative justices. That, and I knew he wouldn't carry WA state, so it didn't really matter who I voted for (I voted Libertarian, hopeful that the party will pick up steam for future elections, even though the Johnson/Weld ticket was a joke). However, Trump is slowly but surely winning me over. He does seem to be trying in earnest to get this country on the right track, and he's proving to govern more conservatively than I ever thought he would. It's an added bonus that he's causing the Left to melt down in ways that no true Republican ever could; I only hope he continues to encourage their self-destruction. 
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| Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:50 am |
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Alpine
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Always amused me to hear my neighbor who defended voting for Johnson and Weld that they were the "lesser evil" when 3rd parties always say "stop voting for the lesser evil!"
No clue what the libertarians were thinking. Weld and Johnson were proof they've been hijacked by drug hippies and open borders advocates. Doubt I'll ever even consider another libertarian candidate for quite some time.
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| Tue Jun 26, 2018 10:47 am |
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movingviolation
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next up, this "reunite the illegals with their children" lawsuit... this is going to be interesting, i think Bobby & Co. are going to shoot themselves in the ass again if the USSC rules (if it gets to USSC) that, yes, criminals must be reunited with the kids, then that would set a precedent on which any criminal can sue when they are arrested and detained and their kids are taken away or if they rule no then the libs are going to get another slap in the face 
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| Tue Jun 26, 2018 12:07 pm |
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AR15L
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In the mean time our money goes... 
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| Tue Jun 26, 2018 12:27 pm |
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snozzberries
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Alpine wrote: Always amused me to hear my neighbor who defended voting for Johnson and Weld that they were the "lesser evil" when 3rd parties always say "stop voting for the lesser evil!"
No clue what the libertarians were thinking. Weld and Johnson were proof they've been hijacked by drug hippies and open borders advocates. Doubt I'll ever even consider another libertarian candidate for quite some time. Why vote for the left nut or the right nut when you can have the Johnson? But seriously, if the 3rd party get's enough votes, then they get federal money. Gotta try to get rid of the 2-party system. Yes, the vote should have been 9-0. Unfortunately judges have become political, and can't read the law. It's all emotions, not logic/reason.
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sportsdad60
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And now a blow to the unions. LOL! WTG Supreme court! How important was it that Trump got elected now? VERY! Supreme Court deals blow to unions, rules against forced fees for government workersIn a major legal and political defeat for big labor, the Supreme Court ruled 5-4 on Wednesday that state government workers cannot be forced to pay so-called "fair share" fees to support collective bargaining and other union activities. While the current case applies only to public-sector employees, the political and financial stakes are potentially huge for the broader American labor union movement, which had been sounding the alarm about the legal fight. The unions say 5 million government employees in 24 states and the District of Columbia would be affected by this ruling. At issue in the high-stakes case was whether states can compel government workers -- whether they are in a union or not -- to pay fees to support union activities. The case centered on the complaints of an Illinois state employee who sued, saying he was being asked to support the union's political message. Justices split 4-4 on the issue in a similar case two years ago. But with Neil Gorsuch now filling the vacancy left by the late Antonin Scalia, he was seen as the deciding vote this time – and sided with the conservative majority in Wednesday’s opinion. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/06 ... mbers.html
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GeekWithGuns
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Shows the underlying importance of electing a GOP majority to the Senate and House in November and re-electing President Trump in 2020. Elections matter. This will allow for appointing more originalist justices to the federal bench (district courts, appeals courts, and the Supreme Court). Our long-term gun rights hang in the balance.
If President Trump can appoint one or two more originalist justices to the Supreme Court then that will be the time to take challenges to the restrictive gun laws in California, New York, New Jersey, and other states to the Supreme Court for review.
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sportsdad60
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GeekWithGuns wrote: Shows the underlying importance of electing a GOP majority to the Senate and House in November and re-electing President Trump in 2020. Elections matter. This will allow for appointing more originalist justices to the federal bench (district courts, appeals courts, and the Supreme Court). Our long-term gun rights hang in the balance.
If President Trump can appoint one or two more originalist justices to the Supreme Court then that will be the time to take challenges to the restrictive gun laws in California, New York, New Jersey, and other states to the Supreme Court for review. :like 
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