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Can't ship Rifle from Individual to FFL at Bellevue USPS?

Sat Jun 30, 2018 9:34 am

I stopped by Factoria USPS to ship an AK to a FFL, was told by employee, the annex manager, and the postmaster on the phone that they don't ship "any firearms". Did the regulation change and I committed a violation or local postmaster have the authority to change regulation as he sees fit?

New here by the way, being shooting for a while but recently got hooked into shooting matches and found this forum. "talktoomuch" has been the most helpful guy here.

Re: Can't ship Rifle from Individual to FFL at Bellevue USPS

Sat Jun 30, 2018 9:51 am

File a formal complaint. They're just being dicks

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/may-non ... al-service

https://about.usps.com/postal-bulletin/ ... dt_001.htm

http://about.usps.com/postal-bulletin/2 ... dt_003.htm

Re: Can't ship Rifle from Individual to FFL at Bellevue USPS

Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:32 am

definitely file a complaint. fuck these anti-2A assholes who want to change laws or rules as they see fit.

Re: Can't ship Rifle from Individual to FFL at Bellevue USPS

Sat Jun 30, 2018 12:03 pm

West Coast Armory just up the street....ask them where they ship from.

Re: Can't ship Rifle from Individual to FFL at Bellevue USPS

Sat Jun 30, 2018 1:39 pm

I called, they don't offer out shipment service, I ended up having the nice folks at Lowpriceguns ship them for me. $50 shipping cost and $35 for transfer.

WaJim wrote:West Coast Armory just up the street....ask them where they ship from.

Re: Can't ship Rifle from Individual to FFL at Bellevue USPS

Sat Jun 30, 2018 2:20 pm

awaysooner wrote:I called, they don't offer out shipment service, I ended up having the nice folks at Lowpriceguns ship them for me. $50 shipping cost and $35 for transfer.

WaJim wrote:West Coast Armory just up the street....ask them where they ship from.

Lowpriceguns is more anti 2a than the post office

Re: Can't ship Rifle from Individual to FFL at Bellevue USPS

Sat Jun 30, 2018 2:21 pm

awaysooner wrote:I called, they don't offer out shipment service, I ended up having the nice folks at Lowpriceguns ship them for me. $50 shipping cost and $35 for transfer.

WaJim wrote:West Coast Armory just up the street....ask them where they ship from.

FYI in case you're not aware lowpriceguns has a policy to not sell to 7% of the adult WA population, even though it's legal. It's age and disability discrimination.
http://kuow.org/post/bellevue-dealer-wo ... e-under-21

Not trying to derail the thread, just wanted to be sure you knew in case you didn't.

Re: Can't ship Rifle from Individual to FFL at Bellevue USPS

Sat Jun 30, 2018 3:12 pm

You guys sure spend a lot of money because of failure to research your issue. Private individuals can ship long guns via U.S.P.S. WITHOUT DECLARATION! FFL's ship handguns all the time via USPS. In fact, one of the more fun things to do is go into a post office with the Domestic Mail regs and packaged firearm in hand and make the leftist vermin comply with their own regulation. True fun.

Re: Can't ship Rifle from Individual to FFL at Bellevue USPS

Sat Jun 30, 2018 3:32 pm

Wow I am not aware. Thanks for letting me know.

Alpine wrote:
awaysooner wrote:I called, they don't offer out shipment service, I ended up having the nice folks at Lowpriceguns ship them for me. $50 shipping cost and $35 for transfer.

WaJim wrote:West Coast Armory just up the street....ask them where they ship from.

FYI in case you're not aware lowpriceguns has a policy to not sell to 7% of the adult WA population, even though it's legal. It's age and disability discrimination.
http://kuow.org/post/bellevue-dealer-wo ... e-under-21

Not trying to derail the thread, just wanted to be sure you knew in case you didn't.

Re: Can't ship Rifle from Individual to FFL at Bellevue USPS

Sat Jun 30, 2018 5:30 pm

3584ELK wrote:You guys sure spend a lot of money because of failure to research your issue. Private individuals can ship long guns via U.S.P.S. WITHOUT DECLARATION! FFL's ship handguns all the time via USPS. In fact, one of the more fun things to do is go into a post office with the Domestic Mail regs and packaged firearm in hand and make the leftist vermin comply with their own regulation. True fun.

Going to have to do that!

Re: Can't ship Rifle from Individual to FFL at Bellevue USPS

Sat Jun 30, 2018 6:12 pm

jukk0u wrote:File a formal complaint. They're just being dicks

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/may-non ... al-service

https://about.usps.com/postal-bulletin/ ... dt_001.htm

http://about.usps.com/postal-bulletin/2 ... dt_003.htm


Yup. Whether they're being dicks or they're just uneducated, they need to comply.

Re: Can't ship Rifle from Individual to FFL at Bellevue USPS

Sat Jun 30, 2018 9:24 pm

MadPick wrote:


Yup. Whether they're being dicks or they're just uneducated, they need to comply.



Even when the SC overturned the Cake Lady verdict?

Or being they're a Gvt. Entity they must comply?

Or is the USPS a true Gvt. Entity?

I hear they aren't.......



Questions man...I gots Questions.

Do they as a private business, not have right of refusal?

Re: Can't ship Rifle from Individual to FFL at Bellevue USPS

Sat Jun 30, 2018 9:31 pm

Buddy tried shipping an UZI rifle back to the mfg for warranty repair through a post office in Wenatchee.
Clerk said it was illegal since it was a machine gun.
After he explained it was a legal rifle, all of the employees came out from the back to check it out.

In Everett, they ship live roosters via mail, could hearing hear them crowing from the parking lot.
So who knows what the fuck goes on in a post office.

Went out with a postal worker a couple times, she told me some pretty crazy shit.
Last edited by Guntrader on Sat Jun 30, 2018 9:39 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Re: Can't ship Rifle from Individual to FFL at Bellevue USPS

Sat Jun 30, 2018 9:39 pm

I had to check the local post office a few years back. She swore up and down I was wrong, so did the next 3 people. Had them call the postmaster. He promptly apologized and cleared up their misconceptions. Very good relationship with them all now.

Thankfully my FFL ships pistols for me at $10 plus the cost of a Flatrate.

Re: Can't ship Rifle from Individual to FFL at Bellevue USPS

Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:29 am

I think it was mentioned above, but to clarify:

YOU (a non-licensee) may ship LONG GUNS through USPS to a FFL. It must be sent Certified Mail, and there are packaging requirements.
YOU (a non-licensee) may NOT ship a handgun through USPS. You MAY ship a handgun through a commercial carrier (UPS/FedEx), but be prepared to pay through the nose for it.

For the absolute latest and definitive word on the subject, contact your local Postal Inspector/Postmaster, or get the number for the Compliance Division of ATF.
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