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There are 2 paper recycling mills in Tacoma and one in Sumner, none receive tax payer money. Together they buy about 600 tons per day of cardboard, mostly from other commercial businesses, not homeowner recyclables.


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Next thing you know, they will ban people in Seattle as well.

Don’t give them any ideas!

You make this sound like a bad thing? Eff Seattle!

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Things kind of creep out all the time about how some aspects of the recycling programs are suspect....

The head of Boise, Idaho's Recycling program was on TV last year being interviewed, and as a throwaway question, the interviewer said 'you recycling everything, right?'...

The woman actually said no, and went on to explain that Boise doesn't actually have a glass bottle recycling processor, so all those bottles get sent by truck to Denver. She didn't think it was cost-effective, nor energy-efficient, to do that, and it created more pollution to do it that way, and then they still had to be processed. So, she personally recycles everything except bottles.

So, along those lines, does trucking the stuff across the country to coastal ports to send by ship to China, really cause less pollution? Does China really recycle all of it?

I don't know the answers to all that, but it just seems that every year or so, we find out something isn't really working correctly in the recycling biz.

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I was shopping for a new garden hose and found that many of the Chinese hoses use ground up recycled electronic parts as filler. As a result, the hoses contain lead and are not drinking water safe. And they recommend you wash your hands after handling them.

If you buy a drinking water safe hose, made in the U.S., you should be good.

Which begs the question, Do the Chinese make condoms??


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If you must use a straw, a syringe will do. When finished just throw it on the ground, it's shitattle.

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China is refusing our plastic bag crap now.

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I was shopping for a new garden hose and found that many of the Chinese hoses use ground up recycled electronic parts as filler. As a result, the hoses contain lead and are not drinking water safe. And they recommend you wash your hands after handling them.

If you buy a drinking water safe hose, made in the U.S., you should be good.

Which begs the question, Do the Chinese make condoms??

I still remember the "hose" taste frome when I was a kid, and kind of miss it in a weird way.

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So glad I can reuse my condoms

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So glad I can reuse my condoms

Whatever keeps your hand from getting the herps... :thumbsup2:

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gives a whole new meaning to a tuna fish sandwhich

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gives a whole new meaning to a tuna fish sandwhich

I don't know what that means. I do know I just threw up a little.

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So glad I can reuse my condoms

Whatever keeps your hand from getting the herps... :thumbsup2:


Condoms are no guarantee against "the herps"... just so y'all know.

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A semi load of cardboard is only cost effective if you are only taking it 3-4 miles.
More than that you are losing money and it goes into a landfill.


Checked the incoming paperwork for today. 15 semi loads of bales are inbound and 10 trucks with 40 yard loose containers. Furthest are coming from Boise Idaho, Yakima and BC Canada. The other 2 local mills in Pierce county get a similar amount every day.

Semi loads average 80,000 lbs each
Loose truck average 15,000 lbs each


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A semi load of cardboard is only cost effective if you are only taking it 3-4 miles.
More than that you are losing money and it goes into a landfill.


Not true. Semi truck loads come from all over the state to the two paper recycling mills in Tacoma. After processing it is shipped all over the US and even to Canada for converting into new consumer products.

Prices are down right now because China quit buying shiploads. Waste paper was more expensive then scrap steel.


Propped up by taxpayer dollars.

"The amount of trash people recycle has skyrocketed since the 1980s. However, the amount of material recovered from the recycled trash did not follow the same trend. Even the CEO of Waste Management, one of the largest residential recycling companies in the country, has said that unless taxpayer dollars cover their losses, they will not continue their collection program."


My Recycling company is jacking up my bill 75%. We may get rid of the service. Too much contamination they say.

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I was shopping for a new garden hose and found that many of the Chinese hoses use ground up recycled electronic parts as filler. As a result, the hoses contain lead and are not drinking water safe. And they recommend you wash your hands after handling them.

If you buy a drinking water safe hose, made in the U.S., you should be good.

Which begs the question, Do the Chinese make condoms??


Would that put lead in your pecker?

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