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A former co-worker reveals his upbringing in a cult
Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:02 am
by sportsdad60
Ben still works at Boeing.
We worked together for 20 years (he was then an application analyst, functional analyst)
I never knew this about Ben. How sad! Glad he came out and told his side of the story.
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/20 ... -this.html
Re: A former co-worker reveals his upbringing in a cult
Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:11 am
by Rix86
Old co-worker of mine was in Scientology. Apparently his ex and her kids still are.
Re: A former co-worker reveals his upbringing in a cult
Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 8:13 am
by RockHopper
I dated a girl for awhile who is still part of one of these “family groups”. I liked the gal, but she had some pretty strange ways, and after a couple months I just couldn’t hang with it anymore.
Re: A former co-worker reveals his upbringing in a cult
Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 8:30 am
by Guntrader
Rix86 wrote:Old co-worker of mine was in Scientology. Apparently his ex and her kids still are.
Sad, his wife and kids are not allowed to talk or communicate with him anymore.
This was a good documentary series.
All the members that left were saying 'What was I thinking???'
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leah_Remi ... _AftermathWhen I ran a DEC service center one of my VAX engineers told me some secret squirrel shit that most of the Mormons don't even know about.
Not sure how much he was into it, drinks coffee and tells a lot of Mormon jokes. Converted so he could marry his wife, didn't have to do his mission.
But he got his temple rec almost immediately after moving here.
Re: A former co-worker reveals his upbringing in a cult
Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 8:31 am
by Selador
Ugh!
So.
Much.
NO!!!!!
Re: A former co-worker reveals his upbringing in a cult
Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 11:31 am
by Rutilate
Guntrader wrote:When I ran a DEC service center one of my VAX engineers told me some secret squirrel shit that most of the Mormons don't even know about.
Not sure how much he was into it, drinks coffee and tells a lot of Mormon jokes. Converted so he could marry his wife, didn't have to do his mission.
But he got his temple rec almost immediately after moving here.
I've recently left the mormon church. While it isn't considered by many to be a cult, it certainly satisfies many of the criteria. From Cultresearch.org:
The group displays excessively zealous and unquestioning commitment to its leader, and (whether he is alive or dead) regards his belief system, ideology, and practices as the Truth, as law.
Questioning, doubt, and dissent are discouraged or even punished.
Mind-altering practices (such as meditation, chanting, speaking in tongues, denunciation sessions, or debilitating work routines) are used in excess and serve to suppress doubts about the group and its leader(s).
The leadership dictates, sometimes in great detail, how members should think, act, and feel (e.g., members must get permission to date, change jobs, or marry—or leaders prescribe what to wear, where to live, whether to have children, how to discipline children, and so forth).
The group is elitist, claiming a special, exalted status for itself, its leader(s), and its members (e.g., the leader is considered the Messiah, a special being, an avatar—or the group and/or the leader is on a special mission to save humanity).
The group has a polarized, us-versus-them mentality, which may cause conflict with the wider society.
The leader is not accountable to any authorities (unlike, for example, teachers, military commanders, or ministers, priests, monks, and rabbis of mainstream religious denominations).
The group teaches or implies that its supposedly exalted ends justify whatever means it deems necessary. This may result in members participating in behaviors or activities they would have considered reprehensible or unethical before joining the group (e.g., lying to family or friends, or collecting money for bogus charities).
The leadership induces feelings of shame and/or guilt in order to influence and control members. Often this is done through peer pressure and subtle forms of persuasion.
Subservience to the leader or group requires members to cut ties with family and friends, and radically alter the personal goals and activities they had before joining the group.
The group is preoccupied with bringing in new members.
The group is preoccupied with making money.
Members are expected to devote inordinate amounts of time to the group and group-related activities.
Members are encouraged or required to live and/or socialize only with other group members.
The most loyal members (the “true believers”) feel there can be no life outside the context of the group. They believe there is no other way to be, and often fear reprisals to themselves or others if they leave—or even consider leaving—the group.
Re: A former co-worker reveals his upbringing in a cult
Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 1:24 pm
by mancat
I have quite a few Mormon friends, one of them is even my best friend since high school. We remain that way because he doesn't pressure me to become Mormon and I don't pressure him to not be Mormon. Back in high school he tried to get me to go to singles dances, and introduced me to some Mormon girls, and that was about it. The girls were cute but they were all odd, not in a good way, and I could never spend my life with a woman who didn't have some bad girl in her
Regardless I've been to enough Mormon events and seen enough of it that I consider them cult-lite.
I also believe that many of them are stretching reality when they call themselves Christians. The majority of their time is spent devoted to the church, the prophets and the BoM, not the Bible or teachings of Christ. In my friend's home you'll find photos of Joseph Smith and Brigham Young but not Jesus Christ.
My opinion remains that I'd rather have a family of Mormons next door than a family of partying drunks any day of the week. I also appreciate that most Mormons are solidly pro-freedom, even for people who don't believe the same as them.
Still it's pretty sad what happens to some people leaving the church. Many are banished from their families and have had awful things said about them or done to them as a direct result. Even spouses divorcing them and preventing them from seeing their kids.
When the church is more important than your family - even your "forever family" - you need to consider your priorities in life.
Re: A former co-worker reveals his upbringing in a cult
Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 11:27 am
by Rutilate
Mancat, you are spot on. Mormons are, by and large, good members of society and I'd choose them as neighbors before drunks. They are just very, very insular.
Re: A former co-worker reveals his upbringing in a cult
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:12 am
by rayjax82
I left the mormon church at age 19. They're definitely cult like. Best thing about growing up in that church was boy scouts. I learned a lot doing that. I just didn't like the blatant racism and homophobia displayed by the scout leaders.
Re: A former co-worker reveals his upbringing in a cult
Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 5:47 pm
by jukk0u
Speaking of cults, Amy Coney Barrett, potential nominee for Supreme Court Justice (and who is smoking hot)

Is getting some flak for being a member of People of Praise. They're a Christian group that does philanthropic work and missionary efforts.
Now suddenly, the left is uncomfortable with "activist" judges, if they are conservative or religious activists.